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Reply 40
Original post by carnationlilyrose
My dad, who has a tendency to say things like this a lot, says that if work were fun, you would have to pay them to be allowed to do it, and to an extent, he is right. I remember my first year of proper work was so horrible that I left and did a PGCE instead just to be a student again. Then I had another 'first' year of work all over again. However, you do build up an immunity to it. You do develop a routine and become a bit more robust. If your job makes you wretched, find something else that doesn't - the day I walked away from my first job is up there in the top twenty best days of my life - but remember that work is work, whatever it is, unless you are very, very lucky.


So do you teach now??
Original post by tinman1
So do you teach now??
Yes. Been doing it for 30 years.
Original post by somethingbeautiful
If you hate it then get out while you still can - while you're young and don't have bills to pay/massive financial responsibilities tying you down.

All the people who tell you ''welcome to the real world'', ''this is adult life'', ''reality check'' etc are brainwashed. Sounds harsh but it's true - people are enslaved into the system because they're led to believe it's the only way to survive - it's false. You do not have to hand your life over to a company for 30+ hours a week of your life, is it really worth it to spend that amount of your time in a place that doesn't fulfill you for around 50 years until you retire, have a couple of years of peace then go to a nursing home and die? People just try to stick their head in the sand and tell themselves ''that isn't going to happen to me'' but of course it will if you work in an office/shop full time and don't pursue a way out. Follow your passion - you have to be hungry for it though. Companies really don't care about individuals - as much as they'd like you to believe that they value you - they don't. You could be made redundant at the drop of a hat if a company went bust/had to downsize and then all of those weeks/months/years that you gave your life to a company will seem even more meaningless - you should have given those years to your own dream, not someone else's. Everyone is just a cog in the machine, a number.

I know how soul destroying it is sit in an office/run around a shop for 8+ hours a day for a crap wage - I've done it. Then I woke and realized - I was only doing it for the money and the money didn't even mean a thing to me. The joy of seeing my wage slip once per month wasn't enough to make up for the fact I was handing my life over to a faceless company and getting nothing in return but meaningless money that disappeared as soon as I had it - and got taxed like ****.

Some people tell you to stay in a full time job because that's what they did and they can't stand to see someone making a success of their life doing something that they actually enjoy rather than rotting away in front of a computer/behind a till. Do what you want to do - you've only got one life.


Word!

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Reply 43
Original post by carnationlilyrose
Yes. Been doing it for 30 years.


Oh wow, wasn't expecting that! Teaching seems like a rewarding career so I can see the appeal, plus its not sitting in front of a pc for 8 hours a day. But it's also a hell of a lot of work for many more hours a day than 8...


It's tricky. I'm not lazy as such, I've always worked alongside sixth form and my degree, I think it's more the boredom of the routine and the job itself that is already making all that revision and hard work feel like a waste of time. Just a very bad time to be stepping out of uni I guess.
Original post by tinman1
Finished uni in May and have been fortunate to get a full time 9-5 job (pay is £18000 which I guess is alright for a first job)

I've been there 3 weeks now, and am struggling like hell with it. As a student I've been so used to lie ins, pubbing it till late, and just generally enjoying life. I worked weekends, so had money to spend too.

But since working 9-5 I find I'm struggling to fit in much around work at all. I have to get up at 6, and don't get home till gone 7 due to the commute I have to make. I'm struggling to sleep as I'm so aware I have to be up early then I find myself checking the time at crazy hours in the morning.

The job itself isn't quite what they sold to me at interview either, it's a lot more targets based than I was led to believe and already feel stressed by them.

I seem to have been struck, rather fiercely, with a reality check about what the working world offers. I went to uni to get a degree to get a job, but mainly to have a good time and now feel like my life is going to be very boring and rather depressing!

A lot of my friends are working in retail still part time and I'm already envying them, not sure whether I should go back to that and have fun while I'm still young and at home with the folks with no responsibilities? And maybe rethink what to do career wise. Thoughts??


Depends though... if your doing a career job then atleast you know youre going somewhere. . I have a job a monkey could do, minimum wage and I do in the region of 50 hours a week and do 2weeks straight no days off! And my company thinks Im happy and do not care about over working me and paying me peanuts. I cant wait to finish my studies and hopefully leave.. but tbh I could be at this job for years... as it was hard enough finding a darn job..

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Original post by tinman1
Oh wow, wasn't expecting that! Teaching seems like a rewarding career so I can see the appeal, plus its not sitting in front of a pc for 8 hours a day. But it's also a hell of a lot of work for many more hours a day than 8... No, I only do that when I come home and get on TSR :redface:I'm trying to cut down....

It's tricky. I'm not lazy as such, I've always worked alongside sixth form and my degree, I think it's more the boredom of the routine and the job itself that is already making all that revision and hard work feel like a waste of time. Just a very bad time to be stepping out of uni I guess.
Adjusting to the world of work is a tough thing. It's a rite of passage because even though you are young (and trust me, you are!) you are closing the door on the carefree life of childhood and adolescence, and there's a kind of mourning for the loss of freedom which is natural and inevitable. But once you've got over the shock of work, you'll find there are also rewards to the adult life. To mess about with Spiderman, along with great responsibility comes great power.
Reply 46
Original post by carnationlilyrose
Adjusting to the world of work is a tough thing. It's a rite of passage because even though you are young (and trust me, you are!) you are closing the door on the carefree life of childhood and adolescence, and there's a kind of mourning for the loss of freedom which is natural and inevitable. But once you've got over the shock of work, you'll find there are also rewards to the adult life. To mess about with Spiderman, along with great responsibility comes great power.


Haha! If only we could be paid to sit infront of tsr all day eh!

Yes I guess that's it, it's a shock to the system going from those carefree uni days and being able to skip the 9am lectures...to knowing that's no longer an option!! And also being the first of my circle of friends to get a 'proper' job is hard as they're still living that fun lifestyle im craving. I am getting used to it more already though, I now automatically wake up really early even on weekends (which is annoying!) but I would still like to go travelling or something in a years time as I'm not exactly in a job which will lead me anywhere within the department I'm in. So I would have to leave at some point eventually, might as well have some fun at the end of it!
Original post by tinman1
Haha! If only we could be paid to sit infront of tsr all day eh!

Yes I guess that's it, it's a shock to the system going from those carefree uni days and being able to skip the 9am lectures...to knowing that's no longer an option!! And also being the first of my circle of friends to get a 'proper' job is hard as they're still living that fun lifestyle im craving. I am getting used to it more already though, I now automatically wake up really early even on weekends (which is annoying!) but I would still like to go travelling or something in a years time as I'm not exactly in a job which will lead me anywhere within the department I'm in. So I would have to leave at some point eventually, might as well have some fun at the end of it!

Well, your generation is going to have to work for a very long time before retirement, so you might as well have your fun while you are young. I have two sons a little older than you, so I know what it's like for your peer group and I am sorry for you, but I do also know that human beings are very adaptable and work will become routine eventually.

As for TSR, I'm going to be retired in a couple of years and I can see myself doing little else all day! I will need to make sure that I break the addiction before my experience becomes too out of date.
late reply but i am starting a full time 8:30-5 job soon and i barely sleep before 1am or wake before 11!!! so im so nervous as to how it will be im used to my part time job. how is it now for you, did it take long to adjust?
Many posts in this thread are so true. It's funny how many college and uni kids don't realise how **** the normal working life is. Even if you're doing full days at uni, a working day is far worse. It's depressing and very boring. The wage at the end of the month doesn't feel worth going in for. It was far more money than I was used to having, but it still didn't make it feel worth it.

My first job was as an intern and I was doing 3 days a week. That wasn't too bad, because I had Monday and Friday's off. After my internship was over, they asked me to stay on as a temp and I began to work full time. The hell started then. The early mornings and lack of time to do much in the evenings is a huge downer. Even after almost a year, I wasn't used to it. Any holidays I had were extremely appreciated. Not having to go in, even for one day felt great. My contract eventually came to an end and I had to leave. I should have felt bad that I was unemployed again, but it felt fantastic not to have to go in everyday any more.

I got another temp job a couple months down the line and that one was even worse. Far more boring and little to do quite often. I ended up leaving due to illness and I'm still unemployed. I dread the time I'm ready to go back to full time work. The people that say they enjoy their job are extremely lucky. The thought of having to do this for the rest of my life is a very depressing thought. It's so ****, but people see it as acceptable and just do it.
Reply 50
Original post by Trisha<3
Depends though... if your doing a career job then atleast you know youre going somewhere. . I have a job a monkey could do, minimum wage and I do in the region of 50 hours a week and do 2weeks straight no days off! And my company thinks Im happy and do not care about over working me and paying me peanuts. I cant wait to finish my studies and hopefully leave.. but tbh I could be at this job for years... as it was hard enough finding a darn job..

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I'm exactly like you, I have worked full time for the past 6/7 years since dropping out of college and I also do a job a monkey could do for minimum wage. I hate it, and like you, my company seems to think I love it. I have just finished studying at college with the intention of going to uni next year, but the idea of another year working in the same job makes me feel physically ill; I have one day off and I just spend the whole day feeling horrible about going back to work the next day. I have been saying I'm going to leave forever, but its just so damn difficult to find another job. I'll probably still be in this job in another 10 years, still on minimum wage as there is no career progression here.

Edit: Forgot to add, I have never so much as took a week off work since starting full time, due to being constantly skint, and never been on holiday either so life is completely depressing at the moment.
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Reply 51
I've got the job I wanted. Doing something I did as a hobby in my spare time(needless to say its loses it appeal after 8 hours work)

Work still sucks. Its not the work it's the requirement of doing it all day every day. Hopefully we will begin to realise the madness of the current system and begin to value our time.
I posted my reply on a similar thread on this forum, but ill post again:

People just try and make themselves feel better and delude themselves they have more free time than they actually have to soften the blow. Its just not the case. There are even books like Vanderkams 168 hours that show you how you can alledgedly have some sort of fulfilling life around work because a week is a long time.

Its just not. People will say 40 hours work and 56 hours sleep still leaves 72 hours in a week free.

It doesn’t at all. I have to travel to work and back. If its busy in the city, that’s 2 hours travelling, so theres 10 hours gone. Work wont pay you for lunch, theres another 5, and the time before work is going to be spent on next to nothing useful. Showering, breakfast, getting ready for the day? Id guess that’s 7.5 hours a week youd say? That’s not too bad an estimate?

So now, without doing any more time at work, your “free time” is 49.5 hours. But really, is it? What about having to eat? Go shopping? what about having to clean the apartment? What about having to do all of your laundry and iron all your clothes? This is going to take your free time down even further, if you loosely class these activities as “free time”.

Vanderkam would just say to hell with it. Outsource all these areas of your life. Pay for a cleaner. Pay for someone to launder your clothes. Yeah right, you cant afford to do that. As if that’s realistic to suggest that to anyone other than someone on a significant salary, who is probably working longer anyway.

So by my calculations, even with working a 40 hour week which most would say is short or “normal”, and not wasting any time, youre still left with what, 45 hours a week?

That might sound reasonable, ish, but what happens if you have to do say 5 hours overtime? What about having to travel to things and back for a hobby? What about those things ive not scheduled, doctor, dentist, all of those?

Im saying youd have realistically 40-45 hours “free” if you didn’t have one single minute of NON SCHEDULED TIME. Youd have that amount of time if you never sat down for a moment and reflected. Or never just spent some time recovering on nothing in particular. Or never had a lie in a little bit longer one day as you were tired.

Its simply not realistic to think that youll utilise all your time non stop, by doing something non stop. People don’t function that way, and a certain amount of time will be wasted by necessity for this reason. Especially if your job is in any way active, youll have to take some time out just to gather yourself.

So your work life balance will become like so many peoples…….work 40 hours, probably more, do all the travelling and such, in return for a few hours on a Friday night in a nightclub. Or all your work time for a few hours at football on a Saturday.

If that’s a balance, then it doesn’t fit what my notion of a balance is.

The reality is, that ive found since working full time, is that your mates will probably do the same, and youll just give up on having a life or the activities within it you used to do, because you cant do them. You cant go to the gym, play football, watch tv, read a book, play an instrument, browse online, maintain a happy relationship and work. There isn’t time. So you just start giving things up. Soon enough, you get exactly what you didn’t want, work is your life.

Id like to say there is a way around it. The one hope you’ve got, is if you GENUINELY like your job. Not many do.
Original post by tinman1
Finished uni in May and have been fortunate to get a full time 9-5 job (pay is £18000 which I guess is alright for a first job)

I've been there 3 weeks now, and am struggling like hell with it. As a student I've been so used to lie ins, pubbing it till late, and just generally enjoying life. I worked weekends, so had money to spend too.

But since working 9-5 I find I'm struggling to fit in much around work at all. I have to get up at 6, and don't get home till gone 7 due to the commute I have to make. I'm struggling to sleep as I'm so aware I have to be up early then I find myself checking the time at crazy hours in the morning.

The job itself isn't quite what they sold to me at interview either, it's a lot more targets based than I was led to believe and already feel stressed by them.

I seem to have been struck, rather fiercely, with a reality check about what the working world offers. I went to uni to get a degree to get a job, but mainly to have a good time and now feel like my life is going to be very boring and rather depressing!

A lot of my friends are working in retail still part time and I'm already envying them, not sure whether I should go back to that and have fun while I'm still young and at home with the folks with no responsibilities? And maybe rethink what to do career wise. Thoughts??


welcome to the real world.. I haven't adjusted and its been 2yrs

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I think it's really dependent what you do. I wouldn't be able to do full - time work in a job that don't interest me and I don't enjoy.

Like retail, how on earth can anybody do 40 hours a week in retail? Soul destroying

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Reply 55
Original post by Green_Army
I posted my reply on a similar thread on this forum, but ill post again:

People just try and make themselves feel better and delude themselves they have more free time than they actually have to soften the blow. Its just not the case. There are even books like Vanderkams 168 hours that show you how you can alledgedly have some sort of fulfilling life around work because a week is a long time.

Its just not. People will say 40 hours work and 56 hours sleep still leaves 72 hours in a week free.

It doesn’t at all. I have to travel to work and back. If its busy in the city, that’s 2 hours travelling, so theres 10 hours gone. Work wont pay you for lunch, theres another 5, and the time before work is going to be spent on next to nothing useful. Showering, breakfast, getting ready for the day? Id guess that’s 7.5 hours a week youd say? That’s not too bad an estimate?

So now, without doing any more time at work, your “free time” is 49.5 hours. But really, is it? What about having to eat? Go shopping? what about having to clean the apartment? What about having to do all of your laundry and iron all your clothes? This is going to take your free time down even further, if you loosely class these activities as “free time”.

Vanderkam would just say to hell with it. Outsource all these areas of your life. Pay for a cleaner. Pay for someone to launder your clothes. Yeah right, you cant afford to do that. As if that’s realistic to suggest that to anyone other than someone on a significant salary, who is probably working longer anyway.

So by my calculations, even with working a 40 hour week which most would say is short or “normal”, and not wasting any time, youre still left with what, 45 hours a week?

That might sound reasonable, ish, but what happens if you have to do say 5 hours overtime? What about having to travel to things and back for a hobby? What about those things ive not scheduled, doctor, dentist, all of those?

Im saying youd have realistically 40-45 hours “free” if you didn’t have one single minute of NON SCHEDULED TIME. Youd have that amount of time if you never sat down for a moment and reflected. Or never just spent some time recovering on nothing in particular. Or never had a lie in a little bit longer one day as you were tired.

Its simply not realistic to think that youll utilise all your time non stop, by doing something non stop. People don’t function that way, and a certain amount of time will be wasted by necessity for this reason. Especially if your job is in any way active, youll have to take some time out just to gather yourself.

So your work life balance will become like so many peoples…….work 40 hours, probably more, do all the travelling and such, in return for a few hours on a Friday night in a nightclub. Or all your work time for a few hours at football on a Saturday.

If that’s a balance, then it doesn’t fit what my notion of a balance is.

The reality is, that ive found since working full time, is that your mates will probably do the same, and youll just give up on having a life or the activities within it you used to do, because you cant do them. You cant go to the gym, play football, watch tv, read a book, play an instrument, browse online, maintain a happy relationship and work. There isn’t time. So you just start giving things up. Soon enough, you get exactly what you didn’t want, work is your life.

Id like to say there is a way around it. The one hope you’ve got, is if you GENUINELY like your job. Not many do.


That's pretty much how I felt when I started full time last year. I couldn't do the same routine 5 days a week and was feeling very depressed. I've switched to 4 days part time work in the same job, and having a day off in the middle of the week makes it much more bearable.
Oh god... Reading all these comments in this thread makes me very sad about my future. No doubt I'll be joining the rat race soon :frown:

No wonder all those people on the underground during rush hour look so depressed

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The weirdest thing, is when you actually have the extra money, you look for ways to waste it.

It sounds ridiculous, but when you come home tired, no free time, depressed, you turn to spending for instant gratification. You try to buy back the happiness working takes away from you.

When not working, i feel perfectly content not spending any money. The moment i start working, i suddenly need a new this, a new that.....where did this need come from? ill do ridiculous things like order dinner out twice in a week rather than cook it, ill put money on a sports bet to cheer myself. Id never do that had my happiness not been sucked away.
After working my first full time, real job, I understand what people are saying here. It was difficult to adjust at first, I got used to going to sleep after 12/1 for my whole life even in education and now I had to change that to being in bed for 10:30 and waking up at 7:15. I still felt tired even when I woke up at that time, most of the time I used to wake up in the middle of the night or sometimes even at like 6/6:30. 9 days out of 10, I hated it. I've finished it now and i'm looking for a new job but I honestly don't feel like I want to work like that again, i'd like to do something part time ideally for a good while until I ever get back in to full time work. I did get used to it but I honestly felt like I was living to work rather than working to live.
I dont see how you can do anything else other than live to work.

You spend 5 days at work and only 2 off

And on the days you do work, youre at work more hours than youre off.

So how can you do anything other than live to work, when work is the single biggest component of your life?

And what sense does the notion of "working to live" mean, when youre life encompasses more work in all forms than living? surely the notion of "doing something for something" means that you use the smaller part of time to fund the wider part of time.

Not using 5 7ths of your time funding the other 2 7ths surely?

Youll always do more work than anything else. Everything else just fills a gap between working again. Its not like youre trading a small amount of work time for the benefits of that. You trade almost all of your time for work and then have to fit the entire rest of your life into whats left over.
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