The 19 year old pedophile who has never gone near a child- Interesting podcast

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Original post by alis-volatpropriis

No! No! Nooooo!

How can you equate homosexuality with pedophila? Are you sick? Homosexuality is between two consenting adults. Pedophilia is between an adult and child that cannot give consent.

If pedophilia was legalised, you'd allow a man to abuse your young relatives and say there is nothing wrong with it?

I swear to God TSR is filled with would-be pedophiles that try to justify and rationalise completely depraved acts. My heart weeps for this generation.

You are a muppet.

I have read the entire thread, and repeatedly you have been called out. Reply with maturity or shut up.

(edited 9 years ago)

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Wade-

Original post by karmacrunch

He knows that paedophilla is wrong which is good. You can't just sit there and feel bad for yourself- he needs help or reach out to people to help him. Or he could tell himself whenever he is out that what is feeling is wrong and he should rise above it.

Not sure if anyone's said this but it's pretty much like telling a homosexual to just be straight or vice versa. Whether you choose to accept it or not pedophilia is a mental illness and suffering from it doesn't make you a bad person, acting upon it does and just to be clear I don't think those who act on it should be able to say it's an illness and then be treated with sympathy or leniency

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Reply 242

Studentus-anonymous

Original post by karmacrunch

All sexual feelings for a child are wrong, whether you like it or not. I didn't watch the video because I don't really want to but i think that paedophilla is a mental illness. If this guy really wants to change he should get therapy or just pick himself up before he gets into trouble.

Not that I am a fan of pedos or anything, but imagine if this was talking about homosexuals instead of pedos?

Anyway hopefully when society has finally had enough of the paedophile scare of the dirty kiddy-fiddler around every corner, it can try and deal with the issue in another way (introducing chemical castration or some other means of dealing with paedophiles. But ultimately they didn't chose to fancy kids, this we have to accept, acting on it though, well...).

Reply 243

NathanDYEL

Aslong as he isn't hurting anyone who actually cares.

Reply 244

brownsugar-xx

Actually i do remember there being an article in the news some months ago about a pedophile who begged the authorities to chemically castrate him because he was worried he would re-offend. I also remember for some reason the authorities were trying to persuade him out of it :dontknow:

Reply 245

alis-volatpropriis

Original post by the mezzil

You are a muppet.

I have read the entire thread, and repeatedly you have been called out. Reply with maturity or shut up.

Why are you even beating a dead horse. I never quoted you. So why are you getting involved? Are you just looking for a reason to insult me?

I have been replying with maturity? I have experience with people like the guy in the podcast. You don't know me, so leave me alone.

Reply 246

Picnic1

Original post by karmacrunch

Possibly through not fully thinking out what you've written, you've implied that a 15 year old boy who has sexual feelings for a 15 year old girl (a 'child') is experiencing 'wrong' feelings.

In fact a child is biologically someone aged under 13. Beyond that they are a pubescent adolescent whose body has said 'You can now give birth'. It's mere law that says 'But you shouldn't do anything that would allow you to give birth'. Good reasons for that law of course because there are some cynical adults. But there are also some wholly loving adults as well. Is it so wrong for a 19 year old male who has great prospects and no desire at all to cheat to have a 15 year old girlfriend?

Law sometimes decides that a child is someone aged under 16 (you can't buy cigarettes until that age) or someone aged under 18 (you can't buy drink until that age) or someone aged under 17 (you can't drive until then) .

By the definition that fantasising about something that, if acted on in real life, could be very harmful, is wrong then I propose that we should outlaw any crime novels or movies that glorify the villain over the law keepers.

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Reply 247

silverbolt

Original post by karmacrunch

My point is that a sexual attraction to children is wrong! why does no one see this! I'm a child myself I don't want to be thought about sexually by any adult.

what you want is immaterial - you CAN NOT control what other people think or desire.

That guy is very brave, he knows how he feels is wrong and he is looking for all the help he can get. and he should receive it.

Anyone who has these desires (and does NOT act upon them) needs all the help in the world to help them cope.

Reply 248

mackemforever

Original post by karmacrunch

So, you say that you believe that he suffers from a mental illness but that he should simply "pick himself up" and stop suffering from that illness.

So should people who suffer from Schizophrenia just "pick themselves up" and stop being Schizophrenic? How about those with alzheimers, or bipolar disorder, or body dismorphia, or impulse control disorder, or tourettes or obsessive-compulsive disorder. Should people who suffer from any of those mental illnesses just "pick themselves up" and stop suffering from them?

Nobody chooses to have any form of mental illness, and many have no ability whatsoever to control it. He is lucky enough that he is capable of recognising his problem and controlling himself to ensure that he doesn't act upon his desires, so surely he should be praised for having the strength to prevent himself from acting out?

Reply 249

ncsoftlover

Original post by TolerantBeing

Why don't you want to watch the video? It's really insightful.
You think it's a simple case of getting therapy? You actually think there are effective treatment options out there for pedophilia?

there's no effective treatment, but there's a witch hunt. Coming out as a pedophile is like coming out as gay 60 years ago, it really takes courage.
That's why rationalizing paedophilia is not a bad thing at all, it would benefit all members of society.

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Reply 250

FlossieH

That's really interesting. Of course I think paedophilia is wrong, but this concept is completely socially constructed! Like in the past 'pedestary' was the norm in some societies e.g. Ancient Greece between young boys and older men. Also sex in general being stigmatised is arguably down to Christianity; before this sex was very open! So it goes to show we have created this view of 'socially wrong' in the same way as crime which is only a crime because the law makes it so.

Reply 251

brendonbackflip

Its interesting that the scientist believed it was possible to change it. Before, I guess I would have agreed with Adam that it's a sexual attraction that can not be fixed, and methods for that would be as unethical and counterproductive as gay 'conversion' is. It's nice to have hope that there can be a change though.

More money should be spent investing in this area of science. More money into prevention and support could eventually cut money in prison places and administration of sexual offences. More importantly, the mental well being and physical safety of potential pedophiles and victims can be saved.

Reply 252

brendonbackflip

Original post by la95

2) "Paedophilia is not analogous to homosexuality."
Of course it is. Both are sexual preferences towards a particular group and are beyond the control of the person experiencing them. The strong emotional reactions incited at the mention of the work "paedophile" is a subjective, socially-ingrained response which has no bearing on how 'right' or 'wrong' something is. I'm sure people had similar emotional responses to homosexuality back when homosexuals were criminalised.

I think one of the main reasons people refuse to look at paedophila in the same light as homosexuality is because unfortunately a stupid homophobic argument against homosexuals is that "well if you accept this, you can accept incest and pedophiles!", and the natural response is to completely rebute this argument.

What upsets me is that the leaps that gay rights campaigning has made have made the view that "you can't help who you fall in love with!" a very common opinion but only when its applied to gay people. No one in this thread is of course advocating paedofilia to be acted upon, but it is not one rule for one sexuality, and a different one for another. The closest analogy I can think of is how its common knowledge that racism is bad, yet there is still an anti-islam belief strong in the west today, and for many people there's no understanding that some if not all anti-islamic views are indeed racist and wrong. (please don't start an argument with me on Muslims now!). Bottom line is, people do not learn from humanity's previous mistakes.

Reply 253

james22

Original post by brendonbackflip

The two are not analogous at all, Islam is an ideology which you can choose, sexuality is something you cannot choose.

Reply 254

brendonbackflip

Original post by james22

The two are not analogous at all, Islam is an ideology which you can choose, sexuality is something you cannot choose.

Perhaps replace that with people from middle eastern/Asian countries then? I was thinking Islam as that's what tends to motivate hatred/distrust

Reply 255

locrian37

Shouldn't have gotten caught.

Reply 256

Pinkyluva08

I can't lie i'm listening to this podcast and i'm struggling. Really struggling. I understand he has a medical problem but I can see why the hate for pedophiles is so bad. It's the worst kind of crime. I can only imagine how is poor mum felt when she found out.