Race dating opinions.

I chose to be anonymous for my personal reason, you can think of it however you want.

Anecdotal insult: Check
Accusation: Check
Assumption: Check
Ad hominem: Check
Argumentum ad populum based on your perceived assumption which you think is fact: Check

I won't state my "race", which is what you want because "race" is a social construct and I am a Christian, as one, we are not supposed to categorise people by their "race" because we are all made in God's image. You could choose to laugh at this, due to tsr being mostly filled with atheists but I don't really care.

I don't have any hangups about someone's "race", seems simplistic but we all have red blood and during a blood transfusion to save a person's life, only the blood type matters, not the donor's "race" (How I despise that stupid "race" term).

I for one, do not have a preference and no I am not being dishonest, I hate dishonesty. Well, I put blonde hair because it suits my skin colour the most out of other colours of hair type. And it is ridiculous that you and everyone else assume a person is "racially ambiguous and less black" for it. Next, you will be telling me that anyone with a lighter skin tone is not black, I beg to differ because members of my family who are not mixed have a lighter skin tone with grey and blue'green eyes and they are 100% black from mother Africa. Just because it is rare does not mean it can't occur. I know it is off topic but wanted to state that anyways.

Caucasian and japanese girls "perm" their hair to make it straight and nothing is said about it. If the blonde hair suits one skin tone and is not tacky, I see no problem with it. I for one could care less about what other people think of the hair colour I have on my hair, because it is not only one's hair, but one's life at the end of the day and living your life to please others doesn't grant one satisfaction.

Just because you have relationships with black girls or with black people does not make you "enlightened", educated or whatever about black people. Until you are black yourself, you won't understand what it means being black. As the parable goes "'Only the wearer knows where the shoe pinches". You have some hang ups about black girls/people even though you think of yourself as being liberal and not "racist" for having relationships with them, do sort them out. Last time I checked, one can still be racist even though they have "black" friends, not that I am calling you a "racist" I was just stating a fact.

NB: To Caucasian boys, the black girls I see (personally speaking, and not fact), could care less about how a person of a certain race thinks about them . Although there are some black girls that do have a "preference" for them. Just because you find many black girls making threads about being attracted to Caucasian boys, does not make this the norm.

I don't even understand the aim of this post I can assume you are trying to take the thread in a different direction. Your initial post was not about the black community as a whole it was simply about you finding out what caucasian guys thought about black women and why some do not find you attractive. This black separatist issue was not even mentioned in the initial post but you are using it here to pretend this was initialy about learning about the black people and how people viewed us you can't fool me.

Why are you asking me about black men in jail what exactly has this got to do with me or your initial post? You see what I mean you are attempting to change the reasons you started this whole thread, no where have I even discussed black men in jail I simply stated I have never met a black separatist.

You come from the USA though a total different culture perhaps you have met more of these sorts of people, however, this does not change the fact that this thread has nothing to do with learning about the way people view the wider black community instead its simply about learning how caucasian males view the black female.

Look back at your initial post the only people you specifically mention are black females and Caucasian males so I have every right to question your motivations. Learn to stick to the subject instead of taking the conversation on a different tangent in order to attempt to paint a better picture of yourself.

The fact you mention specifically those two groups black female and Caucasian male tells me that your only aim is to reach a greater understanding between the two therefor excluding everyone else. Which is fine if its made clear but pretending this is about a greater understanding of society as whole won't work with me nor anyone else who can see where you really are coming from. Perhaps you have to learn how to make unbiased questions in future if you truly are aiming to learn about everyone as a whole which I doubt. Also I think that article/research you read about Caucasian males not being attracted to black females had a bigger affect on you than you think.

What truth hurts, what exactly are you talking about? This is a typical line black girls like to write half the time it means nothing its just a silly overused defence mechanism.

You painted yourself as the bad guy you painted yourself into a corner by specifically pointing out black females and Caucasian males in your initial post it has nothing to do with me. I am just pointing it out to the easily led.

As I have mentioned before I have no problem with black females and Caucasian males getting on better and dating whatever suits you just don't pretend this thread is about understanding society a whole because its not. Its about communicating with white guys in order to understand why some of them may not be attracted to you and in turn you will probably change yourself to appeal more to them as I said before you are here to increase your self worth because you are person of low self esteem.

Im sorry did i direct my questions at just caucasian men, did i start with hey white guys what do you think about black girls, no . I asked everyone! guys and girls, a girl earlier had asked if it was just guys i wanted answers from, i said no.

Yes i am black and thats why i asked specifically in the 3rd question but it wasn't, hey white guys what do you think, it was a general question, for everyone, get the **** of your high horse.

Im not even into dating for heavens sakes, why on earth would i change to impress when i don't even date.

The last question was taken from a psychology class we had that talked about racial dating. I was interested in finding answers that might be similar to the answers we got in my high school survey thats why it was included smart ass.

Gosssh its girls like you with all your pent up anger, and false assumptions that make life difficult for people that are just trig be good and honest, you are probably projecting all your thoughts about yourself on me, i advice you don't do that, smart people get to know others before they make judgements.

This was never a personal thing and you are taking it so personal, you have issues, and i don't, go deal with yours and stop bothering me. Move along and stop looking to fight with a person, all you've done is point fingers and accuse on a post that is just looking for simple answers, really simple answers.

Besides any one that makes a post like this know that they will be more negative answers than positive so i don't understand how you believe that i came here to here good things said about black gel or to try and fit into a social expectation.

Im anti society! more individual.
Just **** off, you're the biased person here,

First things first, I just want to put this to you - being a person from an ethnic minority is not a bad thing, nor a stigma. Being a person from a ethnic minority doesn't not make you into some kind of untouchable or a less desirable person to be in contact with.

Personally, I find your use of the phrase "a minority" insulting and degrading in comparison with "a white British person", as if a person's ethnicity shrouds or sullies their state as a person. Or as if simply being from ethnic minority has set them back 10 steps in life already, regardless of anything else.

Next there is your wonderful generalisation of "minorities complain a lot because they have it hard" Hahaha I'm sorry, I must forgotten about all those times when I cursed and complained about my wretched ethnicity!

There are people in ethnic minority that have it hard, and some that have it easy.

This also applies equally to the ethnic majority. However due to the fact that the ethnic majority is a majority there will be more people who have it easier which will be more visible but regardless many people do not.

Nevertheless, to make such a generalised comment is incorrect as you created this lovely scenario where the white British person is automatically more successful and sophisticated than the person from an ethnic minority, as if their ethnicity is some huge burden that has and inevitably always will hold them back in life.

You seem to find it hard to envisage the idea of a white British middle class family even being friends with a black/Asian etc middle class family that is as successful as them, with "businesses and high education".

The problem that I had with your argument is that you seem to associate ethnic minorities with "having it hard" when a white women from an ethnic majority could have had it hard and have the same effect of "someone who complains that will take you back a step".

On the subject of mixed race children, you and your hypothetical wife are not the race, but you must have been able to understand things from her point of view enough to marry and have children?

In terms of identity, if the only and most important identity you feel you have in life is through your ethnicity then you haven't really experienced life. There is a lot more to the meaning of one's life than the colour of their skin. It's important, of course to know where you come from etc but does anybody really have the same identity as their child? Even if I'm the same colour as my mother, I am a different person born in a different time and inevitable I am going to experience things that she hasn't. Children aren't going to experience everything that their parents have nor vice versa, so if you cant coach your child as well because they are the different race/colour to you, then you'd only show yourself to be an inadequate parent.

Again with the "your kid will always be the minority" - being from an ethnic minority is not a disadvantage in itself, it's people like yourself make it seem like a disadvantage by being so stubbornly biased against them.

So what, your child is the only mixed race child in the room? Does that make them less of a person, less interesting, less rich, are they any different because of the people they are surrounded by?

If I were to get a room full of rich mixed race children and put a white rich child in there, wouldn't he be the minority?

"Minority status" is not some sort of permanent dirty stain. If I were to move back to my country of origin, I would not be "a minority".

Of course you wouldn't see that many mixed race children in posh independent/grammar schools, there aren't that many mixed race children in comparison to other ethnic groups and of course, it will then be whittled down to those who are smart enough and/or rich enough. It's just a case of statistics, but in all honesty, does it really matter how many people of the same ethnic group are around you?

It doesn't guarantee any certain level of pedigree, or personality trait, or wealth, or even just how nice they are as a person.

Anyway, the idea of marrying a person due to their wealth and family, rather than out of love, doesn't always work out as love is colourblind but greed is not.

And just to add, the reason you wouldn't know about many wealthy ethnic minorities holding "parties" for their children to socialise might be due to this thing called "cultural differences".

While I've been putting all ethnic minorities under one umbrella, each has their own and usually much more clearly defined traditions around courtship when looking for marriage, affluent or not.

I know that, at least for the place that I am from, it's a lot more complicated than throwing a load of rich children in a room with your children.

First of all, you don't even need to throw a party in the first place, your children have been around surrounded by a group of suitable partners since childhood and adolescence, things like wealth status and having a good education go without saying.

Other people I know, have said that while they live in the UK, they know that they are going to go back to their country of origin to look for a suitable partner.

So when you think about the reason why ethnic minorities aren't marrying into a ethnic majority a lot, consider the fact that they might not actually want to.

You make it sound like by a "white British person, with a 4x4 and a business" marrying "a minority" he's lifting her out of the deepest depth of poverty, as you've envisaged her as bringing nothing at all, no worldly possessions or values or positives to their relationship and that's simply not true.

Critical thinking and use of logic is obviously not something you are very good at, this is quite scary coming from an aspiring lawyer.

Calling me a trouble maker because you know I caught you out and have no valid argument. lol your replies to my post is basically a massive moan lol typical but expected of you, I will let you rant on in your treasured thread .

I exposed you for what you are a while ago

Maybe some people just like what they look like?
or like what they are attracted to.
I can actually see why black women and white men isnt the most common thing out there infact I know why

What about sticking to the topic?

My opinion of black women, white men relationships is that I don't care. If black women are the least desirable then why does that matter. I do think that social wise we are at the bottom. Women are lower than men and black people are lower than white. But it's what you make of it. One of the richest self made millionaires (maybe billionaire. Not sure) in the world is a black women. She came from a seriously poor background and suffered a lot of abuse. When she was young she would have been considered like any other black girl. The lowest social class. Yet she did something to combat that and has made herself rich. Oprah's only one person but I just want to point out that she would have been considered another "black girl" before she became rich

At the end of the day who cares whether white men don't see you to be attractive. I know a lot of black women and white men are creating relationships for reasons I've already stated. Black women do have a stereotype and I think the media AND we play up to it. Personally I'm a very insecure and shy person. There's a lot of things I dislike about myself (but my skin is definitely not at the top of that list unless in reference to scars and spots).
It may seems like the end of the world but life is what you make it and if you lie your life wondering why white men or men as a whole don't see you as attractive then that's no way too live. Be more confident. Don't play up to stereotypes. Never change your skin colour or hair for anyone. EVER! Please don't bleach your skinv___v

Also stop wearing weaves. They are nasty. Most men of all races hate them.

I said white people. And I never denied who owned black beauty businesses its just I don't understand why Im personally responsible for supporting these people. They could be from a completely different background, country or continent. the only thing we have in common is our colour. I will word it differently. Is it right that i ask a white person from England to turn off the Oprah Winfrey show to watch a talk show hosted by a Russian man just because he is white and in his community.

I don't disagree with any of your points. i just want to understand why you think all black people are from the same country, background, religion or community. Why should I feel bad about purchasing from a better supplier just because their race is different to mine? I am open minded and so you could possibly persuade me that i have been a horrible person and have ignored my 'community'.

Can people pleas stop making personality judgements and discuss opinions on here, thats what this thread is for.

All this negativity is really not going to help us understand each other

Tbh you sound like a crazy person.

What are you even talking about with this exposing thing. Whabuyt do you want here??? You didn't even hav an argument, am i the only one seeing this. You're here to accuse not talk intelligently. Stop assuming things about a person you've never met.

Honestly you're not making any sense all I'm hearing from you is I'm an uncle tom with a low self esteem, and I've said i hear ya, so what else do you want, if you've achieved your goal and you hate the thread so much why are you still here?

Can people pleas stop making personality judgements and discuss opinions on here, thats what this thread is for.

All this negativity is really not going to help us understand each other

You are a massive hypocrite you are the first person to call names and stick labels at people than type this lol are you actually aware of yourself and what you type?

People aren't going to like people's opinions. If you start a race preference thread (specially one that asks specifically about black girls) you were always going to get some negativity. People don't like to be called the ugliest race (understandably), its as simple as that.

I was not boasting, far from it tbh. I was merely giving you a background information of how I look like. I do not "revel in male attention", I actually dislike it, and it makes me uncomfortable. I was just using my experience to show that "black" women are not viewed as ugly as TSR seems to think. If I GET COVERED UP WITH NO SKIN ON SHOW AND WEAR VERY LOOSE CLOTHING, BUT STILL GET THIS TYPE OF ATTENTION, THEN I GUESS I AM NOT AS UGLY AS YOU SEEM TO THINK I AM. I even get puzzled as to why I get this type of attention, please I do not even court their attention to begin with. I guess this kind of attention is reserved for other "beautiful" races, who are far from black right? It angers you that an "ugly" black girl gets this type of attention. NO IT CANNOT BE, SHE MUST DRESS LIKE A WHORE BECAUSE GUESS WHAT SHE IS BLACK, THEY ALL ARE WHORES, RIGHT?

Wow, calling me a "whore" indirectly. Like I said before, I am a Christian (I am not trying to be sanctimonious) hence I do not wear revealing clothing. Whenever I wear trousers, it always covers my bum.

I have always been conservative from a young age about my body, seeing as it is "the temple of God" 1 Corinthians 3 vs 16.

Thanks very much for further proving my point, your likening me to a whore shows that you see black women as sexual objects, which you mentioned in one of your posts on this thread, I can't be bothered to go through 15 pages to fish it out.

The last time I was oggled like this, I actually wore a blazer, blouse underneath it, and trousers with flat shoes, but still got men looking at me like I was a model or something. DOES A WHORE DRESS LIKE THIS?! DO TELL ME?! MY WHOLE BODY WAS COVERED, WITH NOTHING ON SHOW, EXCEPT MY NECK. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHEN SHOWING ONE'S NECK MADE ONE A WHORE!!

I do pity the "black" woman you will end up with because you think so little of them. You have a superiority complex, which you need to get over, because it won't benefit you in this world, and would just make you bitter and unhappy. Being "caucasian" is just a skin colour mate, it's just melanin, no need to get all worked up about it, like it is some kind of achievement.