Islamists celebrate murder of Ahmadi Muslim Brit who wished Christians Happy Easter

They are not Muslim. The website could be run by anyone. It is a safe bet to say it is run by either UK, US or Israeli informants to give Muslims a bad name

They are not Muslim. The website could be run by anyone. It is a safe bet to say it is run by either UK, US or Israeli informants to give Muslims a bad name

My dear brother, most Sunni Islamic scholars, be they hannafi, hanbali, shafi'i, Maliki or salafi, they have all decreed that Ahmadis are not Muslims.

Using what you have said, Ahmadis still do not qualify as Muslims because they do not accept the shahadah.

They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qaddafi, the founder of the Ahmadis sect, is the final prophet, which contradicts the shahadah.

Also, I'm sure you know that committing shirk takes you out of the fold of Islam, Ahmadis commit shirk by attributing human characteristics to Allah

and claiming that he makes mistakes. I urge you to read more on this on islamqa.info/en/4060

The term backward Muslim is incorrect as my views do not contradict Islam so I cannot be a backward Muslim, you can consider me a backward human from your perspective, but to call me a backward Muslim when my views correspond with the teachings of Islam is just incorrect

To prove that they are not Muslims, the creed of Islam states that there is no God but Allah and that the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is his final messenger. Every Muslim must hold this belief to be a Muslim. The Ahmadis however believe that there was another prophet who came later, the founder of this sect, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qadiani, which contradicts the belief that Muhammad (PBUH) is the final messenger, which automatically takes Ahmadis out of Islam. There's other factors as well such as attributing human characteristics to Allah which is shirk which also takes a person out of Islam, that Ahmadis practice. In fact, I urge you to read this to learn more : islamqa.info/en/4060

I'll agree there using a blanket statement to dismiss all Ahmadis as non-muslim is wrong but in my definition of ahmadis, those that believe jesus (as) lived in india for 86 years, that ahmad was the reincarnation of the prophet (saws) or that he was the second coming of jesus (as) is an ahmadi. Any ahmadi that rejects this is not an ahmadi (and is thus muslim) in my eyes.

You laugh and hate on Muslims yet it is the Muslim community who is the fastest growing community in Europe. Your fascist and Islamophobic views will not have traction in the coming decades

Back on topic though, if Ahmadis truely aren't Muslim, then why do Muslims care what they think?

The Ahmadi muslims have done more for Islam - world relations more than any Sunnis have and they number so small the only muslim to win a Nobel science prize was Ahmadi they preach love tolerance and understanding between faiths we have failed in this country to protect the minorities who need protection Mr Shah was a lovely peaceful person.

My dear brother, most Sunni Islamic scholars, be they hannafi, hanbali, shafi'i, Maliki or salafi, they have all decreed that Ahmadis are not Muslims. Using what you have said, Ahmadis still do not qualify as Muslims because they do not accept the shahadah. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad al-Qaddafi, the founder of the Ahmadis sect, is the final prophet, which contradicts the shahadah. Also, I'm sure you know that committing shirk takes you out of the fold of Islam, Ahmadis commit shirk by attributing human characteristics to Allah and claiming that he makes mistakes. I urge you to read more on this on islamqa.info/en/4060

As a Muslim they are not Muslim who celebrate another person's death in such a way. They are extremist who views and ideological thought processes are of a minority and not the minority.

Most Muslims here (uk) and around the world are good Muslims just like my fellow Jews, Christians, Catholics, Indians etc.

He was a good man. 😰

To me that just sounds like a threat

But here's one for you. It's taken decades of struggle to get the society we have at the moment and we will not easily give this up for some imported backward faith that is incompatible with things such as basic human rights.

But hey we've kicked Islam's arse for centuries and we can do it again

We can ask Israel for advice.
They kick the arses of muslims in Muslim regions hahahahahahahah.

To me that just sounds like a threat

But here's one for you. It's taken decades of struggle to get the society we have at the moment and we will not easily give this up for some imported backward faith that is incompatible with things such as basic human rights.

But hey we've kicked Islam's arse for centuries and we can do it again

You put it so perfectly! Since the number is so small, Ahmadis work really hard to make their contributions to various charities count. They even hold many peace campaigns to give Islam a better name.

Most people on this thread are just ignorant trolls who don't know anything about Ahmadiyya and just want to argue with someone.

Even though the people on here who saying they know it all are Sunni, it doesn't technically mean all sunnis are bad either tbh its just a minority who are ignorant which eventually leads them to be extremists...

We could just stop giving them Aid

watch them fight over the few scraps they can produce for themselves

A threat? Grow up? I meant that while there are 0 protections in law for Muslims or Islam, as the Muslim population grows and people become progressively left wing, there will be a mandate for protections for Muslims and Islam.

The difference then compared to now is left wing politics was not a thing then. Now there are millions of those on the left who recognise the suffering of Muslims on a daily basis. I'd bet my life they would stand with Muslims over racists and fascists

Funny how Muslims curse the west so much, yet they emigrate here in the millions and have the west house their refugees while simultaneously sending millions of pounds worth of Aid to Middle eastern countries.


Some parts of the middle east would result to eating mice in the streets if not for the west they preach hate against.

Ahmadis do not represent mainstream Islam. The ideology exists to undermine true Islam

Ahmadis do not represent mainstream Islam. The ideology exists to undermine true Islam