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An actual 2nd order ODE ! Hard? Maybe?!!

Find the general solution of the differential equation
4xy+4x(y)2+2y1=0 \displaystyle 4xy'' + 4x(y')^2+2y' -1= 0 .

It could be difficult right?
Reply 1
Why is no one helping me? 81 views and still no one.
Is it too hard?
Define u(x)u(x) s.t. u=uyu'=uy', then note that:

u=uy+uy4xy+4xu2u24xy2=4xuu u'' = u'y' + uy'' \Rightarrow 4xy''+ \underbrace{4x\frac{u'^2}{u^2}}_{4xy'^2} =\dfrac{4xu''}{u} ,

Which reduces our non-linear ODE to the more reasonable second order ODE:

4xu+2uu=04xu'' +2u' - u=0.
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 3
Original post by Farhan.Hanif93
Define u(x)u(x) s.t. u=uyu'=uy', then note that:

u=uy+uy4xy+4xu2u24xy2=4xuu u'' = u'y' + uy'' \Rightarrow 4xy''+ \underbrace{4x\frac{u'^2}{u^2}}_{4xy'^2} =\dfrac{4xu''}{u} ,

Which reduces our non-linear ODE to the more reasonable second order ODE:

4xu+2uu=04xu'' +2u' - u=0.


Then what you gonna do from there though?
Original post by Ano123
Then what you gonna do from there though?

You're asking the wrong question - the question is: what are you going to do from here? The ODE is not too difficult at all from this point; if you want more help, post your working.

If you're looking for a hint: Can you spot a substitution that simplifies this?
Reply 5
Original post by Farhan.Hanif93
You're asking the wrong question - the question is: what are you going to do from here? The ODE is not too difficult at all from this point; if you want more help, post your working.

If you're looking for a hint: Can you spot a substitution that simplifies this?


I've already got the answer doing it a different way - I don't need help. Seeing how others do it.

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