Should schools alter changing rooms, toilets + uniforms to accommodate trans pupils?

I didn't say remove the toilets - I said rebadging cubicle only toilets as unisex would suit most people. It's down to individual schools to decide what balance works best for them and whether there is a need to preserve gender segregated toilets.

How does a gender segregated bathroom keep you safe?

We're not talking about "changing uniform policy" so don't try that manipulative argument winning tactic with me.

We're talking about "altering changing rooms, toilets + uniforms" not just uniforms.

Okay so you're telling me that bringing in changes to toilets, changing rooms and uniforms is not going to cost money? Seriously?

Imagine how many schools there are, for every single school to impliment these, even in the most cost efficient way (which usually equates to least time efficient, or just not very useful) will cost millions to sort all the schools out. If you genuinely think them millions are better spent getting extra special toilets in every single school for the tiny minority of people than for example improving health services then you're clearly not open to a logical argument.

If we're going with the old ''it's only a badge, why are you complaining''


Why are we even having this discussion?

Imagine how many schools there are, for every single school to impliment these, even in the most cost efficient way (which usually equates to least time efficient, or just not very useful) will cost millions to sort all the schools out. If you genuinely think them millions are better spent getting extra special toilets in every single school for the tiny minority of people than for example improving health services then you're clearly not open to a logical argument.

Because while the badge doesn't provide "safety" it also provides a mechanism for punishment and exclusion and bullying if schools don't consider what their policy and attitude is for trans pupils.

In changing rooms, it quite clearly does provide safety.

When you were a teenager did you enjoy using communal changing rooms? Did you have privacy in the showers or where they communal? Was everyone comfortable with nudity in an open communal space even with just their own gender?

Would you have preferred cubicles?

Noone is suggesting an instant investment of millions to refit every school now. But considering these issues and the fact that teenagers in general are quite body conscious and so providing greater levels of privacy in changing areas and toilets would benefit all pupils when making decisions about changing rooms and toilets could potentially improve school life for everyone.

So I can just say i identify as a girl and I get to go perv on the girls in their changing room?? Awesome.

Really?

All those public sports centres with family changing rooms or all unisex changing areas are unsafe?

I think that usually people use the bathrooms of the gender they are presenting as.

So it is quite a lot of effort to live your life as a girl the whole time you are at school for the sole purpose of "perving" on the girls.

I would have been prepared to put that effort in a few years ago.

I always like to think your bizarre trolls have a serious meaning.


Even if 90% of people use the system the right way, if 10% don't that's still worse than what we current have.

I think that usually people use the bathrooms of the gender they are presenting as.

So it is quite a lot of effort to live your life as a girl the whole time you are at school for the sole purpose of "perving" on the girls.

Maybe gay men and lesbians should be excluded from communal changing areas too

why?

What school have you been to that only has a single set of toilets for the pupils?

Even my tiny primary school of 180 pupils had 6 sets of toilets (3 male, 3 female) - and that was in an old victorian building.