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Black Lives Matter
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Original post by trillinhomie
good stuff mane, I juss hope we never get events in like what happens in the US where innocent black people are killed
> innocent black people
commits violent crime and attacks police officer, officer has to defend self with gun.
god damn that policeman is so racist
Imagine the Police Force kept the order through force in the UK. There will be inquiry upon inquiry. Even when the idea of arming (or militarizing) the Police Force in the UK was brought before Parliament, there was a big row about it.
The Police Force is supposed to be a peace and security service. If there are cases where force is required, then they escalate the issue. This is the reason why there are other security outfits in the US such as the Special Weapons and Tactics Unit (SWAT) for hostage situations progressing to the National Guard for mass situation.
The idea that a person, whether black or white or asian, gets in contact with a Police Officer and ends up dead should be very worrying to everyone. We cannot argue that because black people are killed by other black people, then it should be fine for Police Officers to do the same. It is the same as arguing that a white woman gets raped by a white man, then it is okay for a Police Officer to rape a white woman.
There are many cases where black people have be involved with the Police and died. For example, Sandra Bland, a black Texas woman, was stopped by a Police Officer. The next day she was found dead in her cell. The report was that she "committed suicide." Tamir Rice, a 12 year old kid, playing with a toy gun in the playground was shot dead because he posed a "threat." Eric Garner, who was chokeheld and surrounded by at least 5 burly police officers. The cases go on and on.
There many more cases that people do not know because they are either not reported or not visible enough. There are even allegations of Police cover-up and other dubious activities. The sad fact about the US is that black people are still seen as a threat. Systematic racism is still alive and well. Like Barack Obama told the black activists, things have not changed.
Yes, not all Police Officers are bad or seemingly racist, but when a case, which borders on racism, comes up, there should be real justice.
The Police Force is supposed to be a peace and security service. If there are cases where force is required, then they escalate the issue. This is the reason why there are other security outfits in the US such as the Special Weapons and Tactics Unit (SWAT) for hostage situations progressing to the National Guard for mass situation.
The idea that a person, whether black or white or asian, gets in contact with a Police Officer and ends up dead should be very worrying to everyone. We cannot argue that because black people are killed by other black people, then it should be fine for Police Officers to do the same. It is the same as arguing that a white woman gets raped by a white man, then it is okay for a Police Officer to rape a white woman.
There are many cases where black people have be involved with the Police and died. For example, Sandra Bland, a black Texas woman, was stopped by a Police Officer. The next day she was found dead in her cell. The report was that she "committed suicide." Tamir Rice, a 12 year old kid, playing with a toy gun in the playground was shot dead because he posed a "threat." Eric Garner, who was chokeheld and surrounded by at least 5 burly police officers. The cases go on and on.
There many more cases that people do not know because they are either not reported or not visible enough. There are even allegations of Police cover-up and other dubious activities. The sad fact about the US is that black people are still seen as a threat. Systematic racism is still alive and well. Like Barack Obama told the black activists, things have not changed.
Yes, not all Police Officers are bad or seemingly racist, but when a case, which borders on racism, comes up, there should be real justice.
Original post by Youngmetro
1) Why does the fact that its a white guy starting the movement got to do with anything
2) If a leader says some **** like that, why does it undermine the meaning of the movement
3) What has black crime gotta do with this? You saying black people commit crime so innocent blacks deserve to get shot?
No thanks, you can go to hell as far as im concerned.
2) If a leader says some **** like that, why does it undermine the meaning of the movement
3) What has black crime gotta do with this? You saying black people commit crime so innocent blacks deserve to get shot?
No thanks, you can go to hell as far as im concerned.
probably 1% of the blacks that get shot are innocent. so many run away or pull something or attack etc etc and its their own fault
Original post by Youngmetro
Yes.
So the movement are violent thugs who like stealing things.
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Original post by trillinhomie
Y'all need to support this ****
All lives matter. I wish there was world peace and no people being cruelly taken away before thier time no matter of their race.
Original post by Chandellier
> innocent black people
commits violent crime and attacks police officer, officer has to defend self with gun.
god damn that policeman is so racist
commits violent crime and attacks police officer, officer has to defend self with gun.
god damn that policeman is so racist
Not all black people killed by a police officer committed a violent crime.
Original post by Chandellier
probably 1% of the blacks that get shot are innocent. so many run away or pull something or attack etc etc and its their own fault
You're nine times more likely to get shot as black guy than as a white guy. And it's getting worse.
Original post by DiddyDec
Its white girls like you who judge the movement based on the actions. And the majority didn't steal, those who did steal don't represent the movement.
Original post by Youngmetro
You're nine times more likely to get shot as black guy than as a white guy. And it's getting worse.
stop breaking the law then
Original post by Chandellier
> innocent black people
commits violent crime and attacks police officer, officer has to defend self with gun.
god damn that policeman is so racist
commits violent crime and attacks police officer, officer has to defend self with gun.
god damn that policeman is so racist
have you heard of the tamir rice shooting? (he was fatally shot in a drive by shooting by two police officers because he had a toy gun at a park)
the death of sandra bland? (she was found dead in her jail cell, after being arrested for not using her indicator on a road, people suggested she dead in her mugshot after being killed by police)
Sandra bland mugshot:
Note: Tamir Rice was TWELVE YEARS OLD
(edited 8 years ago)
The fact that there are people who are denial that there is particularly strong discrimination against black people shows the need for 'Black lives matter'.
Original post by Youngmetro
1) Why does the fact that its a white guy starting the movement got to do with anything
2) If a leader says some **** like that, why does it undermine the meaning of the movement
3) What has black crime gotta do with this? You saying black people commit crime so innocent blacks deserve to get shot?
No thanks, you can go to hell as far as im concerned.
2) If a leader says some **** like that, why does it undermine the meaning of the movement
3) What has black crime gotta do with this? You saying black people commit crime so innocent blacks deserve to get shot?
No thanks, you can go to hell as far as im concerned.
1) Wasn't that he was white, but he lied about his racial history for years before being found out, then excommunicated by other BLM members. He also took funds from the BLM campaign for himself and refused to tell donors what happened to their money.
2) If a leader of any group makes such vile statements (and remains in her position) it means that followers of the group mustn't find the tweet that problematic. One must then assume that the sentiment is at least partially shared by others members.
3) No, but if blacks commit more crime it would result in more black deaths at the hands of the police. Is that not logical?
Original post by trillinhomie
ok that was bad wording maybe
All lives are always at risk, but the black lives matter movement is helping make sure those killed by police for effectively doing nothing don't go unnoticed, you can't kill random people walking down the street, don't you know about the tamir rice shooting?
Regardless blm also raises awareness on black on black crime, especially in chicago
All lives are always at risk, but the black lives matter movement is helping make sure those killed by police for effectively doing nothing don't go unnoticed, you can't kill random people walking down the street, don't you know about the tamir rice shooting?
Regardless blm also raises awareness on black on black crime, especially in chicago
Sometimes they have to shoot them because of failing to follow instructions. You see, this is what happens when you allow most of your citizens to have guns.
Black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008.
Yes I know there are black people who are killed by police for no reason, same for whites too, but that doesn't explain the above. You have to give it to the police there because they are dealing with people who own firearms and weapons more than any other western country. I am grateful I live in a country that doesn't have that. Black lives do matter, but so does others. And some campaigners for BLM are also campaigners for black supremacy - I say if they do that then they are just as bad as the KKK.
I have read an article saying that black people are more likely to commit a crime because they are more likely to be living in poverty. I'm not saying race is the issue but it's a matter of poverty.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by Chandellier
stop breaking the law then
what you trying to say?
Original post by Chandellier
stop breaking the law then
You seem to think that black people are the only people, who break the law. So, with your argument, when a white or an asian person breaks the law, then they should be killed by the Police?
This logic is beyond reason.
Original post by Youngmetro
You're nine times more likely to get shot as black guy than as a white guy. And it's getting worse.
and shot by who?
Original post by Wired_1800
You seem to think that black people are the only people, who break the law. So, with your argument, when a white or an asian person breaks the law, then they should be killed by the Police?
This logic is beyond reason.
This logic is beyond reason.
no one should be killed by police, let alone innocent people
Original post by trillinhomie
have you heard of the tamir rice shooting? (he was fatally shot in a drive by shooting by two police officers because he had a toy gun at a park)
the death of sandra bland? (she was found dead in her jail cell, after being arrested for not using her indicator on a road, people suggested she dead in her mugshot after being killed by police)
Sandra bland mugshot:
Note: Tamir Rice was TWELVE YEARS OLD
the death of sandra bland? (she was found dead in her jail cell, after being arrested for not using her indicator on a road, people suggested she dead in her mugshot after being killed by police)
Sandra bland mugshot:
Note: Tamir Rice was TWELVE YEARS OLD
What happened to Tamir Rice is lamentable, but look at the gun which he pointed at the officer.
One is a model, the other is a real gun. Many others in the officers shoes would have probably done the same.
Original post by TheIr0nDuke
What happened to Tamir Rice is lamentable, but look at the gun which he pointed at the officer.
One is a model, the other is a real gun. Many others in the officers shoes would have probably done the same.
One is a model, the other is a real gun. Many others in the officers shoes would have probably done the same.
> pointed at the officer
[video="youtube;dw0EMLM1XRI"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw0EMLM1XRI&nohtml5=False[/video]
Holy **** mane im actually dyin rn omg
Watch the video, he's messing with the gun yes BUT HE POINTS IT AT ONE PERSON DURING THE WHOLE CLIP and the ****in police didn't even stop, they just ****in drove by the poor kid and shot him, didn't even get out the car
Original post by TheIr0nDuke
1) Wasn't that he was white, but he lied about his racial history for years before being found out, then excommunicated by other BLM members. He also took funds from the BLM campaign for himself and refused to tell donors what happened to their money.
2) If a leader of any group makes such vile statements (and remains in her position) it means that followers of the group mustn't find the tweet that problematic. One must then assume that the sentiment is at least partially shared by others members.
3) No, but if blacks commit more crime it would result in more black deaths at the hands of the police. Is that not logical?
2) If a leader of any group makes such vile statements (and remains in her position) it means that followers of the group mustn't find the tweet that problematic. One must then assume that the sentiment is at least partially shared by others members.
3) No, but if blacks commit more crime it would result in more black deaths at the hands of the police. Is that not logical?
1) As i said, his race is irrelevant, what is important is the meaning of the moevement.
2) Who is this you are talking about?, And no that assumption cannot necessarily made. It's like saying 'ISIS is wrong' but if we dont denounce it then it means we agree with ISIS. And you also seem to portray blacks in a hostile and immoral manner.
3) Where do you get these facts from? Note that stats from FBI aren't accurate since they dont consider the huge number of cases dropped, which further outlines the racism.
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