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Muslim doctor calls killing homosexuals "compassionate"

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Original post by missfats
Earth is described as flat in the qur'an? Lol.

We might as well all join the flat earth society. :ahee::ahee:

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Apparently so lol, so stupid
Original post by yasminkattan
Resulting to jokes about mothers, such an immature response.




It's not a joke.


You said camel urine is a very beneficial medicinal drink right?

So I'm asking how you know this? Through your mother or what uneducated 7th century war lords said?
Original post by yasminkattan
I'm not defending murder, calm down.


I know you're not but are you defending the drinking of camel urine?
Reply 203
Original post by queen-bee
Fox News usually comes to mind when it comes to anti-Islam/Muslim propaganda
If an event is reported on Fox News, does that mean that it didn't happen?
Reply 204
Original post by Good bloke
If it originated in Scotland we'd be able to call it Irny Brew.
Brewd in Scotlin, frum murdurs.

(An old Irn Bru ad used to say, in a Scots accent... "Brewed in scotland, from girders", in case anyone was wondering) :getmecoat:
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Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
Actually many people in the Islamic world believe in a flat earth. They base their views on verses like this;



The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia (until he died in 1999) Sheikh ibn Baz believed the earth was flat. You say nobody believes that, but here is a debate on Iraqi TV discussing whether the earth is flat

[video="youtube;wppjYDj9JUc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc[/video]








:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny::
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Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
Actually many people in the Islamic world believe in a flat earth. They base their views on verses like this;



The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia (until he died in 1999) Sheikh ibn Baz believed the earth was flat. You say nobody believes that, but here is a debate on Iraqi TV discussing whether the earth is flat

[video="youtube;wppjYDj9JUc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc[/video]


Shaykh ibn Baz never said such thing. This is his fatwa:

"According to the people of knowledge the Earth is round. Indeed, Ibn Hazm and other scholars have declared that there is consensus on this matter among the people of knowledge.This means that all of the surface of the Earth is connected together so that the form of the planet is like a sphere.

Nevertheless, Allah has spread out the Earth's surface in relation to us, and He has placed upon it firm mountains, the seas, and life as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allah said: "And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was spread out flat (sutihat)." [Sûrah al-Ghâshiyah:20]

Therefore, the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it to facilitate our lives upon it and our comfort. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it."

However people love to start rumours like these. As you can see he never said the Earth is flat.
Original post by Attempt
:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny::t oofunny::toofunny:


One of the funniest parts of that debate is when the pro-flat earth guy starts citing as proof of the earth's flatness is the fact then when you are standing on the shore and you see a ship coming towards you, at first you can only see the top of the mast.

That evidences the exact opposite! :lol: That is excellent evidence of the curvature of the earth, not its flatness.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/islamic-cleric-blames-women-earthquakes-5655756


Earthquakes are caused by women who dress provocatively and tempt people into promiscuity, a prayer leader has controversially claimed.Hojatoleslam Kazim Sadeghi who is a senior cleric in Tehran made the wild accusation during morning prayers.In a video posted on YouTube he says: "When promiscuity spreads, earthquakes increase.""There is no way other than taking refuge in religion and adapting ourselves to Islamic behavior," he added.Sadeghi was last year appointed by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei as a substitute prayer leader in Tehran - the second most powerful position behind Khamenei who is the official prayer leader.Iran has suffered greatly from earthquakes, with one in the city of Bam killing tens of thousands in 2003.







More Islamic contributions to science.
Original post by yasminkattan
Shaykh ibn Baz never said such thing. This is his fatwa:

However people love to start rumours like these. As you can see he never said the Earth is flat.


That was a later fatwa. The sheikh's views on this were very well known in Saudi Arabia as he had denounced Riyadh University in the 1960s for teaching the "falsehood" that the earth is a spheroid

He only changed his views in the 1980s when he spoke to a Saudi prince who had gone up in the space shuttle
Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
One of the funniest parts of that debate is when the pro-flat earth guy starts citing as proof of the earth's flatness is the fact then when you are standing on the shore and you see a ship coming towards you, at first you can only see the top of the mast.

That evidences the exact opposite! :lol: That is excellent evidence of the curvature of the earth, not its flatness.





But But


Islam is the best religion for scientific discoveries and muslims are the best of people as the Qur'an said.


Hahahahaha
Reply 211
Original post by queen-bee
because I myself don't know the ins and out of their religion
I can fill you in (:mmm:) on the ins and outs.
Only after marriage or with a slave.
Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
That was a later fatwa. The sheikh's views on this were very well known in Saudi Arabia as he had denounced Riyadh University in the 1960s for teaching the "falsehood" that the earth is a spheroid

He only changed his views in the 1980s when he spoke to a Saudi prince who had gone up in the space shuttle


No, there is no fatwa in which he claims the earth is flat. This was a widely spread rumour, and it was said that he also called those who believe the earth is round, 'kuffar', which again is false.
Original post by sfaraj
believe since a couple of goons say we shall kill all,


It was not a couple of goons it was a Doctor attending a Mosque in the UK and he was 'warmly received' by the audience

If his comment are not the norm why did not one single muslim at the event complain or challenge his abhorrent comments?
Reply 214
Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
Many Islamists often claim this as a kind of backstop; i.e. "It doesn't matter our laws are so harsh because the four person rule means no-one will ever actually be in that situation".
Remember that it is four witnesses - or a confession.

We all know how easy it is to obtain a confession. Especially in certain countries!
Reply 215
Original post by samina_ay
Same-sex marriages were just legalised in the UK in 2014. Before that it was illegal. How horrific
Hardly "horrific", but unacceptable, yes.

And now it has been changed.
How long until homosexuality is no longer a sin in Islam?
A year? Two? Ten? Any idea?
Original post by BaconandSauce
It was not a couple of goons it was a Doctor attending a Mosque in the UK and he was 'warmly received' by the audience

If his comment are not the norm why did not one single muslim at the event complain or challenge his abhorrent comments?




Because Islam is a religion of peace.


You ignorant Racist Bigot
Original post by QE2
Hardly "horrific", but unacceptable, yes.

And now it has been changed.
How long until homosexuality is no longer a sin in Islam?
A year? Two? Ten? Any idea?

It won't change babe
Original post by yasminkattan
No, there is no fatwa in which he claims the earth is flat. This was a widely spread rumour, and it was said that he also called those who believe the earth is round, 'kuffar', which again is false.


Okay we're not going to agree on ibn Baz, but you claimed that no-one believed this but I embedded a youtube video of a debate on Iraqi TV about whether the earth is flat.

Clearly some people do believe it
Reply 219
Original post by sfaraj
as a muslim, can i just say what the doctor did was disgusting, you see you've got loads of different muslims. there are homosexual muslims etc etc. my friends are homosexual and lgbt supporters. i don't go round killing them. so theres a difference between the extreme muslims who think that their beliefs should apply to everybody and those keep their beliefs to themselves and don't force it down peoples throats becasue free will mate. do what you want.
So, you are saying that you should be able to decide which bits of Islam apply, and which don't, depending on your own personal morality?

because above anything else you should not murder, basic belief in all religions
But a killing sanctioned by law is not murder (within that culture at least), to the killing of homosexuals, according to the sharia process, is not murder. It is sanctioned by Allah. So really, opposing it is more likely to see you in jahannam.

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