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Video footage of real killings - have you watched some?

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Original post by JordanL_
I'm asking you what effect it has.


To start with, it desensitises people to human suffering.

What effect do you think it has?
Original post by lopterton
To start with, it desensitises people to human suffering.

What effect do you think it has?


That's incredibly vague. Do have any research to back it up?
Original post by lopterton


The mistreatment of dead bodies is a war crime, banned under the Geneva Convention (in article 16 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, and also in earlier Geneva documents).



Since when was videoing or taking a picture of a dead body mistreating it? Are you baiting everyone or is this you being serious? I can't tell. Militarys themselves do this. Do you see why no one is taking your arguements seriously?

It's never even going to be banned. You'd have to throw a collosal amount of people in jail. No one's making you watch the videos lol. Why do you care if others do
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Original post by JordanL_
They'd laugh at us for spending billions on such a ludicrous law.


And you'd know this by obviously either bring lawyer or an accountant with some knowledge of the cost of implementing laws such as these.
Original post by BaconandSauce
And you'd know this by obviously either bring lawyer or an accountant with some knowledge of the cost of implementing laws such as these.


You don't need to be a lawyer to know that asking the police to investigate and arrest hundreds of thousands of people will cost a lot of money.
Original post by JordanL_
You don't need to be a lawyer to know that asking the police to investigate and arrest hundreds of thousands of people will cost a lot of money.


How do you know it would be so many?


You do realise that if something is made against the law the majority of law abiding citizens would simply stop watching them.

Yes there would be some like you who may or may not stop watching them but it does really depend HOW MUCH you do like watching them and what you may or may not be willing to risk.
Original post by BaconandSauce
How do you know it would be so many?


You do realise that if something is made against the law the majority of law abiding citizens would simply stop watching them.

Yes there would be some like you who may or may not stop watching them but it does really depend HOW MUCH you do like watching them and what you may or may not be willing to risk.


Wow, you're making a lot of assumptions. I like watching these videos, and I'm a law-breaking rebel.

I don't like watching them, but that doesn't make your proposal any less ridiculous.
Original post by JordanL_
Wow, you're making a lot of assumptions. I like watching these videos, and I'm a law-breaking rebel.

I don't like watching them, but that doesn't make your proposal any less ridiculous.


What assumption am I making?
Original post by BaconandSauce
What assumption am I making?


That I like watching these videos and that for some reason I'd watch them if they were illegal.
Original post by JordanL_
That I like watching these videos and that for some reason I'd watch them if they were illegal.


I used the term 'may or may not' as indication I didn't know your stance

So no I didn't assume anything (and one assumption is not 'a lot of assumptions')

Now care to answer my previous question?
Original post by BaconandSauce
I used the term 'may or may not' as indication I didn't know your stance

So no I didn't assume anything (and one assumption is not 'a lot of assumptions':wink:

Now care to answer my previous question?


How do I know there would be so many?

Because there are thousands of these videos online, posted to social media regularly, and most people wouldn't take the law seriously because the chance of being prosecuted would be miniscule.
Original post by JordanL_
How do I know there would be so many?

Because there are thousands of these videos online, posted to social media regularly, and most people wouldn't take the law seriously because the chance of being prosecuted would be miniscule.


And you know this how?
Original post by BaconandSauce
And you know this how?


......................Because I use the internet??????????
Original post by JordanL_
......................Because I use the internet??????????


So because you use the internet you know 'most people wouldn't take the law seriously because the chance of being prosecuted would be miniscule.'

OK fair enough.
Original post by BaconandSauce
So because you use the internet you know 'most people wouldn't take the law seriously because the chance of being prosecuted would be miniscule.'

OK fair enough.


No, I know that because it's exactly the same situation we have with drug laws.
seen quite a few
Beheading of Mexican cartels
2 live burnings both of which were Nigeria (the one with the 4 students is one the scariest things ive ever seen)
some guy butchered like meat by a gang of Malaysian gansters with machetes that was savage (not sure if he died but he looked dead)
3 guys 1 hammer
Original post by lopterton
To start with, it desensitises people to human suffering.

What effect do you think it has?


Makes people more informed
Makes people actually care about such horrors and impassions them to use their voice to stop it
Gives people an unbiased, uncensored look at humans and mortality

Go tell your friends or family that boko haram has killed 100 people in a village and they will not bat an eyelid. (They might offer 2 seconds of faux sympathy before getting back to watching Benidorm and snapchatting themselves as a cat)

Show them the smoking ruins and corpse ridden village and they will take notice
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Original post by Betelgeuse-
Makes people more informed
Makes people actually care about such horrors and impassions them to use their voice to stop it
Gives people an unbiased, uncensored look at humans and mortality

Go tell your friends or family that boko haram has killed 100 people in a village and they will not bat an eyelid. (They might offer 2 seconds of faux sympathy before getting back to watching Benidorm and snapchatting themselves as a cat)

Show them the smoking ruins and corpse ridden village and they will take notice


Can't be having that. We should be living in a bubble where we pretend nothing bad ever happens. Anyone that seeks out the truth is a sicko and should be identified by Big Brother and thrown in jail.

All in the name of protecting society.
JFK's assassination and ISIS :/
8 pages and no mention of the icepick? Disappointing!

For those who don't know ... basically, Canadian gay porn star and general oddball Luca Rocco Magnotta decided to progress from making videos suffocating kittens with a vacuum cleaner and make a human snuff film.

Spoiler


Well, that's one way to break up with your boyfriend! Clearly suffering from the galloping crazies, he decided to mail the severed body parts via courier service to political offices and primary schools. No, I'm not really sure why either. His previous partner was a female serial killer so I guess he's just unlucky in love.


Original post by ljamest
Although i have been told about "3 men 1 hammer" which is supposedly this video of two people killing the third with a hammer as the title suggests... something about them being in a crazy gang or something? Although tempted to see what its about i always hold back because I KNOW it will be awful.


Original post by Dysprosium
I was too scared to watch it but I believe the victim's head turns mushy...


It's 3 Ukrainian teenagers who wait on a quiet road for an old man to come past, ambush him and drag him down off the roadside into a woody area and then beat him to death with a hammer.

Spoiler

If you're at all squeamish, avoid like the plague.

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