Muslim doctor calls killing homosexuals "compassionate"

Theres no place in the quran where it says homosexuality is punished by killing.

So for businesses to deny service to gay people is not discriminating?

Allowing businesses to refuse service to people based on their sexual orientation perpetuates intolerance.

But Mohammed prescribed it as a punishment, didn't he? You know, the bloke who is sent as a model of behaviour for all people in all times.


al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

But yes any Law that discriminates is bad but is it really worse that a law that kills people for being gay?

Thanks for the reply

This hadith is emphasising how bad the action is in islam. The quran is the law and it is not mentioned in there.

Also note 4 witnesses have to testify for any trial like this. What would be the chances? This hadith is displaying the severity of this crime

The hadith certainly does what you say, but it goes much further in establishing that Mohammed set a precedent (and he is a role model, remember) for Moslems to follow.

Four witnesses are only needed if there is no confession. Are you aware how easy and common it is, even in these enlightened times, to extract a confession, even a false one?

Well seems as youve convinced yourself tht muslims will follow the above hadith they will also follow the rest i.e. not lie or cheat.

Thanks for the reply

This hadith is emphasising how bad the action is in islam. The quran is the law and it is not mentioned in there.

We already know they do lie and cheat; you only need to read the newspapers and court reports to see that.

Are you seriously arguing that no Moslem would ever attempt to use force or cohersion to extract a confession from a supposed homosexual?

As has been stated this is not the intention of the law and if it is used this way then it will be challenged

But yes any Law that discriminates is bad but is it really worse that a law that kills people for being gay?

A true muslim never would. A bad human might yes. Wht your implying is tht all mslims are evilhuman beings. So id rather not convrse with a bigot

A true muslim never would. A bad human might yes. Wht your implying is tht all mslims are evilhuman beings. So id rather not convrse with a bigot

"Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now" = (religiously motivated) incitement of violence. He should be in jail

You know enough to know that it's a divisive, oppressive, and violent retrograde ideology that has no place in enlightened society

We stopped executing homosexuals pre-Victorian era

So why do people choose to follow it?

You know the answer: a combination of poor education and merciless indoctrination from an early age.

If you indoctrinate as religious parents do, you will succeed, ninety-nine times out of a hundred, in producing someone who has the same superstitious beliefs you do, as the Jesuits have always known.

Hmmmm my parents weren't even believers of Christ and I was raised in a Christian household with Christian values

depends on the scholar, i follow sistani so any others would have to be taken into considertion

you know our continuous bickering is getting tedious....

I notice that you didn't answer my question of whether you think the execution of homosexuals (under Islamic conditions) is right or wrong.

Shall we assume that your reluctance to answer means that you think that it is right?

i dont support homosexuality in any wayshape or form

Saying they should be put to death is a bit too far imo.

They should be educated and be given the harsh truth though.