Any non religious Muslims around?

Shiaphobia and kuffiraophobia are real man

For u to say that God doesnt exist you must be able to say what or who God is. Think about it this way: A tree is a tree. You know what a tree is. If someone then looked at pencil and says that this isnt a tree, they are correct (i know it is a trivial statement). But they can only say that, if they know what a tree is. If they dont know what a tree is then they cannot say that something isnt tree. So u to imply that God
doesnt exist doesnt work.
Now referring to your unicorn idiom. Your are saying that we cannot prove the existance of something that is invisible and undectable. But... what about something that is smaller than a plank length. We cannot see it and there are no instruments to detect something smaller than ~6.63E-34 so while it is unlikely that there is a random creature on your head, we cannot be certain about things that arent detectable.
Thank you for having this intellectual conversation with me

It hurts man

The views that vile Sunni espoused are not atypical in Sunni communities across the world.

For u to say that God doesnt exist you must be able to say what or who God is. Think about it this way: A tree is a tree. You know what a tree is. If someone then looked at pencil and says that this isnt a tree, they are correct (i know it is a trivial statement). But they can only say that, if they know what a tree is. If they dont know what a tree is then they cannot say that something isnt tree. So u to imply that God
doesnt exist doesnt work.

Now referring to your unicorn idiom. Your are saying that we cannot prove the existance of something that is invisible and undectable. But... what about something that is smaller than a plank length. We cannot see it and there are no instruments to detect something smaller than ~6.63E-34 so while it is unlikely that there is a random creature on your head, we cannot be certain about things that arent detectable.

To paraphrase something that I read recently: it's the height of stupidity to think that the same merciful god that didn't prevent the Holocaust will help you pass your exams. Puerile, yes, but it makes the point just fine.

What a load of bull****.



You missed the point of what I was saying. My point is that the Burden of Proof lies with you, and if I were to make claims about my little french unicorn, it would lie with me. You cannot disprove that there is a deity. Just how you also cannot disprove there is an invisible, undetectable unicorn on my head. However, it's my job to prove that it does infact, exist if I am so certain it does.

What a load of bull****.



You missed the point of what I was saying. My point is that the Burden of Proof lies with you, and if I were to make claims about my little french unicorn, it would lie with me. You cannot disprove that there is a deity. Just how you also cannot disprove there is an invisible, undetectable unicorn on my head. However, it's my job to prove that it does infact, exist if I am so certain it does.

Also, some sect's, strongly, believe in the downfall of Jews and Israel, partly because they have democracy.

It's sad, because this hatred doesen't exist in Islam.

And yeaaah, its funny because Shia's are more liberated than Sunni's (I believe) and actually, logically, make more sense.

lool its like me saying ,god isn't merciful because he isn't stopping the genocide that's happening in Syria ,but really god is testing us ,sometimes things happen to us that we may think its bad, but really at the end we gain some benefit from .people of syria never use to be practising but now during the genocide many people have turned back to Allah

Mohammad had his own problems with the Jews...


Sadly, it really does. To extent to which it does depends on how you interpret the Quran, if you follow the hadith, etc, but there's no doubt that this hatred can be derived from Islam.


I agree.

sometimes things happen to us that we may think its bad, but really at the end we gain some benefit from .people of syria never use to be practising but now during the genocide many people have turned back to Allah

Listen, can you just piss off, like legit, because if you look at the thread's title and your comment's, there an evident inbalance. Bye.

In what way is the first bit "bull****"

For the second bit. You said it yourself there is no way to disprove a deity.

What don't you like about my comments?



That statement isn't just limited to disproving a deity. Think about why you can't disprove that there is a deity.

The "Jew" problem was because of religious indifferences in the Middle East. Obviously the reign of a new religion, belief system, was going to irritate the Jews.

In the Constitution of Medina, Jews were given equality to Muslims in exchange for political loyalty.^[2][13] However, after each major battle with the Medinans, there were accusations of Jewish tribal treachery for aiding the enemies of the community in violation of the Constitution of Medina.^[14] After Badr and Uhud, the Banu Qainuqa and Banu Nadir, respectively, were expelled "with their families and possessions" from Medina.According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, Muhammad became increasingly hostile to the Jews over time as he "perceived that there were irreconcilable differences between their religion and his, especially when the belief in his prophetic mission became the criterion of a true Moslem."

I don't see no problems with Jews, and it annoys me at the slightest when Islamic Imam's try to preach hate against them, and use Israel as propganda. Like no? Israel has democracy, liberation and money unlike the rest of the middle east.

Its not your comment as much, but the replies that come after it. Just clogging up this thread with futility and irrelevance.

lool its like me saying ,god isn't merciful because he isn't stopping the genocide that's happening in Syria

but really god is testing us

sometimes things happen to us that we may think its bad, but really at the end we gain some benefit from

people of syria never use to be practising but now during the genocide many people have turned back to Allah

What don't you like about my comments?



That statement isn't just limited to disproving a deity. Think about why you can't disprove that there is a deity.

I was referring to the fact that Mo was no friend of the Jews.




It's because they are on "muslim land" and killing muslims. Yet Saudi killing muslims in Yemen, or Lebanon discriminating heavily against Palestinians do not seem to qualify as worthy enough incidents to unite the ummah against.

Hatred of Shias/Ahmadis etc is so widespread amongst Sunni schools of though (insofar as such individuals 'think' about anything in general). It's sad. Shias are clearly the more tolerant, reasonable and less extremist sect.