More than half of British Muslims say homosexuality should be outlawed

You didn't read the OP very well, it polled 2000 Muslims.

And don't say "it's not big enough" or "it doesn't represent everyone's belief," because that is how samples work.

Well I would say that it doesn't represent everyone's belief as the study actually only polled Muslim adults, completely bypassing the younger generation. You cant put a survey (especially one done by the daily mail ) above criticism by saying "that is how samples work"

The survey wasn't carried out by the Daily Fail though. Believe me, I'd take it with more than a pinch of salt if it had been.

Ofcourse the survey isn't above criticism, but the way it has been conducted would suggest it's reliable and accurate.

Well, hopefully the younger generation do not carry the same views as their parents, though I fear that' s a faint hope frankly.

Firstly, do you seriously, honestly think the results of the survey are massively out?

Secondly - regarding the bolded - the opposite to what you seem to be implying is the case. The younger generation are more staunch than the older. Probably because their elders - who mostly came to this country from places like Pakistan/Bangladesh etc - realise what it's like living in a backwards place, while the youngsters don't seem to know when they're born and are trying to turn this place into the backwards idiotfest their parents left behind to live somewhere good.

I'm not arguing against homosexuality.

But what I am saying is, if someone believes another is committing to an immoral act in their own view (e.g. religiously) but doesn't discriminate them and respects their persona up to an extent that they befriend one another, then I don't see why it should be considered homophobia. For example, there are Muslims that will befriend Christians despite Christians committing an Islamic sin (e.g. believing in a son of God). And of course vice versa: the Muslims may be committing sins under laws of Christianity. But just because there are differences among each of these communities, there's no discrimination really involved.

It might be accepted in atheism which has no ultimate law maker and you act on whatever desire you wish to fulfil but it will never be accepted in Islam. And pushing young Muslims to deviate and purposefuly blur the ones about what is acceptable and not won't get you far either.

As for the article it shouldn't be surprise to anyone nor a threat. We aren't suddenly going to take control of the country overnight, these are passive opinions.

But fundermentalis such belief is a prejudice one and from prejudice discrimination comes.

An example. Let's say you are a black person and you move into a new neighbourhood that is overwhelmingly white. At your local town meeting a member of this neighbourhood declares quite bluntly a belief in a collection of racist positions. Now wouldn't something like that make you feel unsafe, make you worry that said prejudices would follow into actual discrimination (small or large), now imagine that but with a majority of the neighbourhood supporting this racist and his opinions.

Hmmm... I don't think it is prejudice. I don't really have to have a judgmental view of an individual or cause any sort of mental or physical harm because they are homosexual, despite believing the homosexual act is a sin. Of course, like in that example you use, these beliefs can give rise to such views but it's unnecessary. Overall, my opinion is, if one is friendly to a homosexual without causing them any mental (e.g. prejudiced, judgmental views) or physical harm, it's not considered homophobia. Each to their own I guess.

What about indirect acts: supporting a homophobic preacher, handing out homophobic leaflets, publicly preaching that homosexuals are wrong and so on? Do you consider those homophobic or is it just homophobic, in your view, to directly target an individual homosexual. I'm just curious.

Hmmm... I don't think it is prejudice. I don't really have to have a judgmental view of an individual or cause any sort of mental or physical harm because they are homosexual, despite believing the homosexual act is a sin. Of course, like in that example you use, these beliefs can give rise to such views but it's unnecessary. Overall, my opinion is, if one is friendly to a homosexual without causing them any mental (e.g. prejudiced, judgmental views) or physical harm, it's not considered homophobia. Each to their own I guess.

the "reislamisation" of youth in Western Europe is, in my view, a real phenomenon. It corresponds to a search for identity among the second/third generation immigrants.

As such trends usually go, this is probably bound to reverse at some moment , but when exactly , it's difficult to tell. So much depends from developments in the economy, the political system, world politics etc

It probably will happen eventually to be honest, like with the softening of Christianity. If Islam wants long-term and practical, functional survival in the West, especially as we're getting much more progressive and accepting by the decade, then it will be forced to adapt or die out. There are no two ways about it.

I think it in part comes from the degeneration of British culture, which has been done in a way to try to help immigrants feel more welcome, which has meant there has been no strong British culture to latch on to. This has caused problems both for young Muslim people and young English people.

This was never a problem for any of the immigrants that came before, or that come currently. I live beside and have shared accommodation with many different demographics, most fit in perfectly regardless of culture. My flatmate loves chicken feet............some sort of Chinese delicacy I guess

My other flatmate is Spanish, barely speaks a word of English. Kinda sexy, but she fits in well and is really fun.

I've had other flatmates from all over.

Only two groups ever show any sort of endemic problems 'adapting', Africans and Arabs. Lets be honest, it simply is the case. the stats reflect this and everyone I have ever met has been a walking talking testament to the fact.

This was never a problem for any of the immigrants that came before, or that come currently. I live beside and have shared accommodation with many different demographics, most fit in perfectly regardless of culture. My flatmate loves chicken feet............some sort of Chinese delicacy I guess

My other flatmate is Spanish, barely speaks a word of English. Kinda sexy, but she fits in well and is really fun.

I've had other flatmates from all over.

Only two groups ever show any sort of endemic problems 'adapting', Africans and Arabs. Lets be honest, it simply is the case. the stats reflect this and everyone I have ever met has been a walking talking testament to the fact.

I think it in part comes from the degeneration of British culture, which has been done in a way to try to help immigrants feel more welcome, which has meant there has been no strong British culture to latch on to. This has caused problems both for young Muslim people and young English people.

No, I myself don't think gay marriage should be a thing.

I don't hate conservativism. You're probably some 15 year old who watched Daily Politics once and thought, "I know what I can do to sound so cool and intelligent - be interested in politics as a kid, yaaaaaaay"

Lmfao. Go away pal.

It might be accepted in atheism which has no ultimate law maker and you act on whatever desire you wish to fulfil

but it will never be accepted in Islam.