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Your opinion on group projects?

Don't you just hate them? I do.

I do Computer Science and we have a module where we have to develop a program from a given spec. The problem is the groups are random and some people do absolutely nothing or have no idea how to program (which is essentially the main point of the course, to learn how to program).

This module is probably going to be the most important/relevant to employers but it gets negatively impacted by the group you're assigned to.

What is your opinion on group projects?

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Reply 1
Hate them
Terrible ****ing idea if serious grading is involved. Group projects at uni especially are the worst. In my last module I worked with 3 other people and pretty much me and the only guy in our group did all the work and we got a 1st for it- including the people who did **** all.
Original post by Novascope
Terrible ****ing idea if serious grading is involved. Group projects at uni especially are the worst. In my last module I worked with 3 other people and pretty much me and the only guy in our group did all the work and we got a 1st for it- including the people who did **** all.


This! This is what is p***ing me off also. We're graded as a unit. Considering I have done pretty much everything up until now I think it is ridiculous. Two people have done absolutely nothing at all and they get to have the same grade as me??

This is a module at uni and it has a name that is very relevant in the Software Development industry (the module has the same name!) which means if I end up getting the lowest grade in this project (which is quite big) it's going to look very bad. The worst thing is it's not even my fault.

Their departments excuse for random groups is that "this is how it works in real life", but no! That's not how it works because in real life, when you go into a job, you will mostly likely end up with hard working people who actually give a ****.
Luckily not on my course
Can't say I like them but we're individually marked.
Reply 6
It's ********. I like to work on my own. Plain and simple. I don't want anyone else to tell me how to do my job, and I don't wish for the responsibility to tell people how to do theirs either.
I am a gold mine in group projects. When people hear that I got in a group with them, they just smile... because they know I will fekin' do all that it takes to get a first, including the whole damn project.
Yeah they're pretty awful
Original post by eagleclawsan
Don't you just hate them? I do.

I do Computer Science and we have a module where we have to develop a program from a given spec. The problem is the groups are random and some people do absolutely nothing or have no idea how to program (which is essentially the main point of the course, to learn how to program).

This module is probably going to be the most important/relevant to employers but it gets negatively impacted by the group you're assigned to.

What is your opinion on group projects?


I ****ing hate group projects. I always end up hating someone. People are always shitty and don't pull their weight.
Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple
Yeah they're pretty awful


:love:
They are evil
Original post by LaMandarine
I am a gold mine in group projects. When people hear that I got in a group with them, they just smile... because they know I will fekin' do all that it takes to get a first, including the whole damn project.


You don't mind doing all the work? Like... don't you have other stuff going on? The projects I get its almost impossible to complete on your own with all the other stuff we have going on in our other modules. What degree are you doing ?

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Original post by ServantOfMorgoth
You don't mind doing all the work? Like... don't you have other stuff going on? The projects I get its almost impossible to complete on your own with all the other stuff we have going on in our other modules. What degree are you doing ?

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History and International Relations.
Essentially, for one project last year, I researched all areas (min 5 sources per each project member), added them in a video, edited the whole thing nicely in final cut pro.

Did I mind doing all the work? Yes.
Did it take a lot of time? 2 days no sleep
Did I have plenty of other stuff going on? Yes
Did I get a first? Yes
Was it worth it? Had no other choice
Hate them. I always get put with the worst people and it's just vexing that my lazy ass is usually the hardest working one. Why. Just why.
Original post by LaMandarine
History and International Relations.
Essentially, for one project last year, I researched all areas (min 5 sources per each project member), added them in a video, edited the whole thing nicely in final cut pro.

Did I mind doing all the work? Yes.
Did it take a lot of time? 2 days no sleep
Did I have plenty of other stuff going on? Yes
Did I get a first? Yes
Was it worth it? Had no other choice


The project we finished a few weeks ago was horrendously long and we only had 3 months to complete it. The lecturer split project itself into 4 parts. 3 parts were group work and 1 part individual.

-we had to go visit an old machine that's not functional and take it apart and take all the measurements in like 1.5 hrs (not possible to do on your own)

-we had to do a video (worth 30% of the project) that included a lit review, background, problem statement (the full works). Then she had us do metrics and the instructions were so unclear. We had to basically make up reasons why anyone would want to use the machine. We had to redesign a part of it virtually which is another day of work by itself. Had to make a screencast explaining in detail how the original machine functioned (you had to figure out how it did in the first place), then we had to come up with 2 other redesigns along with the first one ( so 2 extra whole days of work)

And that just the FIRST part the 2nd part was much longer but I bet you're already tired of reading all this lol.

We had 5 modules alongside this heavy project with constant labs and incourse tests. I was not possible to do it all up one your own lest you miss exams and labs in other modules.
Original post by ServantOfMorgoth
The project we finished a few weeks ago was horrendously long and we only had 3 months to complete it. The lecturer split project itself into 4 parts. 3 parts were group work and 1 part individual.

-we had to go visit an old machine that's not functional and take it apart and take all the measurements in like 1.5 hrs (not possible to do on your own)

-we had to do a video (worth 30% of the project) that included a lit review, background, problem statement (the full works). Then she had us do metrics and the instructions were so unclear. We had to basically make up reasons why anyone would want to use the machine. We had to redesign a part of it virtually which is another day of work by itself. Had to make a screencast explaining in detail how the original machine functioned (you had to figure out how it did in the first place), then we had to come up with 2 other redesigns along with the first one ( so 2 extra whole days of work)

And that just the FIRST part the 2nd part was much longer but I bet you're already tired of reading all this lol.

We had 5 modules alongside this heavy project with constant labs and incourse tests. I was not possible to do it all up one your own lest you miss exams and labs in other modules.


I'm sorry for your case. In my case we had a historiographical debate. Had to gather claims around one topic from different areas. Each of us had to specialise in one author with his/her supporting group.

I thought my project members were all ok, until one Friday, coming from the library at midnight, I saw two of them smashed, just having come out of the uni club. That morning afterwards we were meant to discuss what we had found. Of course they all told me they were sick and haven't even started the project, later that day. As I was expecting that, I didn't go to sleep when I came in my room: I just looked at their parts and worked for each overnight. I had my other assessments to prepare/proofread etc. during that time, and an in class test.
I remember it like it was yesterday. When I got in I just walked around my room for a bit, contemplated whether them f**kin us all over would leave its mark on my average, figured out that was the case, so I sat at my desk for two days and did not move my arse unless I needed to go to the toilet.
I always liked to make an early start on all work, spend several solid hours on it each day (never starting before 10 AM, or continuing beyond 6 PM), finish it well before the deadline to avoid stress, and just fine-tune it over the last few days (or even submit it early and relax if I was confident). The worst thing I ever did in university was agree to be the one who lead a group project, combining everybody's work into one flowing document. I was forced to keep to their work patterns - one sent theirs to me the day before the deadline, which was stressful enough, and the other two did it the night before the 10 AM submission. :afraid: Thankfully, we did alright, but I'd never agree to do anything like that again. :no:
Original post by LaMandarine
I'm sorry for your case. In my case we had a historiographical debate. Had to gather claims around one topic from different areas. Each of us had to specialise in one author with his/her supporting group.

I thought my project members were all ok, until one Friday, coming from the library at midnight, I saw two of them smashed, just having come out of the uni club. That morning afterwards we were meant to discuss what we had found. Of course they all told me they were sick and haven't even started the project, later that day. As I was expecting that, I didn't go to sleep when I came in my room: I just looked at their parts and worked for each overnight. I had my other assessments to prepare/proofread etc. during that time, and an in class test.
I remember it like it was yesterday. When I got in I just walked around my room for a bit, contemplated whether them f**kin us all over would leave its mark on my average, figured out that was the case, so I sat at my desk for two days and did not move my arse unless I needed to go to the toilet.


Lol you didn't eat or anything? Let's just agree that group projects are bad

Oh I didn't say why my group members were bad lol.
1 of them ( idk what's his problem) but when ever we suggests ideas he always thinks were all wrong and he's right although he is glaring wrong and he would get angry at us and not say anything until he gets home on the little Facebook group me made to chat.

Another one of them was so disorganised I don't really know what to say. He only goes to lectures in the evening because he stays up all night doing his work and spends his mornings sleeping so you can never get him to bring anything on time because it's like he's always sleeping. He would come to meetings sporadically but when he came he had good ideas so he wasn't so bad.

Another group member was never present for meetings, he never would respond on the Facebook chat and only when things are due (like the same day) he's be all in a rush to get everything done. He was doing the models of the redesign so we had a lot to depend on him for. I'm no good at the program that we use to do the models so I couldn't do it myself.
It was a complete disaster.

I had one other group member and she was the only competent one and would do things on time but she had a bit of an attitude problem and we clashed a lot because she doesn't know how to speak to people with respect.
I'm one of those terrible students who will do as little as possible to get the grade (because i hate my course with passion). So yeh, if I'm perfectly honestly i was usually someone who would do very little work in a group project. But just enough work that i couldn't get penalised for it if anyone complained. I did feel bad for it... But tbh i would have done more work just at a later date but one person in my group was intent on getting it finished well before the deadline so i just let her.

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