Can all bigots please **** off TSR?

I'm also in favour of the death penalty. For that reason and more.

My apologies, I thought you were one of the multiculturalism endorsing 'every contrary opinion is bigoted' types. Too many on this forum.

*cough* name of one of these people is that word *cough*

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similarBlank

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Original post by ThatOldGuy

All right. I'll play your game - Opinions, by that definition, are all factual acts - That is: You have chosen to believe(Or not believe) in something a particular way and thus what you would call bigotry wouldn't be bigotry, either.
By that definition, bigotry just wouldn't exist.

That actually is just as subtle a joke as the original thread... I think. I apologize. I don't know if you're being serious or not because it's the internet, so I suspect you're just playing on modern thinking and pointing out the inherent absurdities.

But surely an opinion is what someone thinker whereas bigotry isn't what you think it's merely being intolerant of what someone thinks?

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Betelgeuse-

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Death to the baguettes

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ThatOldGuy

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Original post by similarBlank

But surely an opinion is what someone thinker whereas bigotry isn't what you think it's merely being intolerant of what someone thinks?

Okay. I now think that you believe this, so I apologize(Unless you don't really believe it, in which case well played).

Intolerance is simply the outer-manifestation of a disagreement, and banning 'Intolerance' simply means you've assumed that 'Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'.

The simple truth is that we should be intolerant of certain things - If a man is schizophrenic and decides to jump off a building, we -should- interfere with him. If two inner-city gangs and shooting the poop out of each other, we -should- put a stop to it. If a child decides she doesn't want to go to school, we -should- interfere with that.

On the other hand, if you're suggesting that we should embrace classical liberalism where "The right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins", then that is an argument.

However: That requires the ability to criticize things, including things the majority(Or minority) would rather not have criticized.

If your rule is that intolerant thought is fine, but intolerant action are not, then you've actually just outlawed voting unless you vote for a party that promises not to adversely affect anyone ever. :wink:

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EricPiphany

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Original post by similarBlank

Let's do it! For democracy and freedom!

I'm here to stay.

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Plantagenet Crown

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Yes, because this is really going to make bigots leave... :rolleyes:

see yah OP

IIT 2016 noobs arguing

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RobML

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Original post by Mathemagicien

After you both

At least Oliver_94 hasn't turned up yet

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RobML

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Original post by similarBlank

I propose that bigotism is not an opinion but the factual act of being intolerant to opinions, thus being intolerant to a factual act isn't being intolerant of an opinion and thus doesn't constitute bigotry.

Your idea of what constitutes bigoted behaviour is a matter of opinion, pshhhh

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Original post by ThatOldGuy

Okay. I now think that you believe this, so I apologize(Unless you don't really believe it, in which case well played).

Intolerance is simply the outer-manifestation of a disagreement, and banning 'Intolerance' simply means you've assumed that 'Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'.

The simple truth is that we should be intolerant of certain things - If a man is schizophrenic and decides to jump off a building, we -should- interfere with him. If two inner-city gangs and shooting the poop out of each other, we -should- put a stop to it. If a child decides she doesn't want to go to school, we -should- interfere with that.

On the other hand, if you're suggesting that we should embrace classical liberalism where "The right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins", then that is an argument.

However: That requires the ability to criticize things, including things the majority(Or minority) would rather not have criticized.

If your rule is that intolerant thought is fine, but intolerant action are not, then you've actually just outlawed voting unless you vote for a party that promises not to adversely affect anyone ever. :wink:

On the contrary, I'm a libertarian and think people should be able to say and do whatever they like. :smile:

However, even in a libertarian society it would need to be illegal to, for example, break the law or make baseless accusations.

I do get the joke but it was partially by accident as I'm simply just suggesting the theory that bigotry is, essentially, making a baseless accusation, which is often against the law but for some reason it seems to be accepted in our society. I guess I put it in a rather abrupt manner, but really I'm just asking why this is?

An opinion is something that is not defined, it can be anything. Bigotry is something that is defined, it's either yes or no, on or off.

bigotryˈbɪɡətri/nounnoun: bigotry; plural noun: bigotriesintolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

This is, essentially, a guide to spotting bigotry. Saying someone can say something is bigotry when it's not is, surely, like me going to Wales and saying 'This country is Scotland.' It clearly isn't, no matter how much I say it's Scotland the fact is its Wales. It's like lying; lying is based on what someone does. It is the act of saying something that isn't the truth. It isn't someone's opinion of whether someone is lying or not, it's a fact that they either are or they aren't. It isn't someone's opinion of whether someone is being bigoted or no, it's a fact that they either are or aren't. (Based on the definition of the word.)

I completely see what your saying and this post isn't really about what I believe (I was rather annoyed at the time I made this post, hence the original tone of the message. :tongue:

) but I'm just proposing an idea or theory and seeing what people think. :smile:

Original post by RobML

Your idea of what constitutes bigoted behaviour is a matter of opinion, pshhhh

I don't go by 'my idea' of what constitutes bigotry, as most people do, I go by what bigotry factually, according to the actual definition of the word, is. Explanation above.

Can all bigots please **** off TSR?

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