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Trigonometry urgent help please :)

Hi guys,
Please could someone kindly help me with the question in the attachment. The first part was to prove the first part in red and I managed to do that. But I'm stuck on finding the values of X.

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance :smile:
Original post by Aty100
Hi guys,
Please could someone kindly help me with the question in the attachment. The first part was to prove the first part in red and I managed to do that. But I'm stuck on finding the values of X.

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance :smile:


What have you tried so far for the second part? :h:
Reply 2
Original post by SeanFM
What have you tried so far for the second part? :h:


This is what I thought about doing but I'm not sure.

Also that should say square root 😂
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by Aty100
This is what I thought about doing but I'm not sure.

Also that should say square root 😂


tan2(x)=(tan(x))2\tan^2(x)=(\tan (x))^2

tan2(x)=1\tan^2(x)=1
tan(x)=±1=±1\tan (x) = \pm \sqrt{1}=\pm 1

You know from here yeah? :smile:
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by The-Spartan
tan2(x)=(tan(x))2\tan^2(x)=(\tan (x))^2

tan2(x)=1\tan^2(x)=1
tan(x)=1=1\tan (x) = \sqrt{1}=1

You know from here yeah? :smile:


there is another possibility ....when you do the square root ?
Original post by Aty100
This is what I thought about doing but I'm not sure.

Also that should say square root 😂


A substitution like y = tanx may help you, so you have y^2 = 1. Then you could say that y^2 - 1 = 0 and then use something to help you progress.
Original post by the bear
there is another possibility ....when you do the square root ?


Haha just noticed that as you replied, silly me XD
Reply 7
Original post by The-Spartan
tan2(x)=(tan(x))2\tan^2(x)=(\tan (x))^2

tan2(x)=1\tan^2(x)=1
tan(x)=1=±1\tan (x) = \sqrt{1}=\pm 1

You know from here yeah? :smile:


Omg I totally forgot 😂 Thank You!

So would the answers be

1/4 pi
5/4 pi
3/4 pi
7/4 pi
Original post by Aty100
Omg I totally forgot 😂 Thank You!

So would the answers be

1/4 pi
5/4 pi
3/4 pi
7/4 pi


Right on :smile:
Now you have the answers:
@SeanFM stated another useful method that you could use,
y=tan(x)y=\tan (x) and so y2=1    y21=0y^2=1 \iff y^2-1=0
Difference of two squares was what the trick here was,
(y1)(y+1)=0(y-1)(y+1)=0
And so you get
y=±1y=\pm 1.
Original post by The-Spartan
tan2(x)=(tan(x))2\tan^2(x)=(\tan (x))^2
tan2(x)=1\tan^2(x)=1
tan(x)=1=±1\tan (x) = \sqrt{1}=\pm 1

√1 = 1
±√1 = ±1
Original post by 04MR17
√1 = 1
±√1 = ±1


Erm... No.
1=±1\sqrt{1} = \pm 1
To show, lets take the inverse:
12=11^2 = 1,
(1)2=1(-1)^2=1.
1=±1\therefore \sqrt{1}=\pm 1
:smile:
Original post by The-Spartan
Erm... No.
1=±1\sqrt{1} = \pm 1
To show, lets take the inverse:
12=11^2 = 1,
(1)2=1(-1)^2=1.
1=±1\therefore \sqrt{1}=\pm 1
Irrelevant. If you are going to put + Ans. Then you have to have a + before the √.
Original post by 04MR17
Irrelevant. If you are going to put + Ans. Then you have to have a + before the √.


Oh, thought you were saying that the square root does not equal plus or minus :redface:
Hmm, ive always written it as 1=±1\sqrt{1}=\pm 1 :frown:
Original post by The-Spartan
Oh, thought you were saying that the square root does not equal plus or minus :redface:
Hmm, ive always written it as 1=±1\sqrt{1}=\pm 1 :frown:


This thread should clear things up :h:
Original post by SeanFM
This thread should clear things up :h:


Oh gawd, i've omitted the plus/minus on all of my square roots my whole life and only put them in the answer :rofl:
Think i need a break from maths for a couple days :colonhash:
Original post by The-Spartan
Oh gawd, i've omitted the plus/minus on all of my square roots my whole life and only put them in the answer :rofl:
Think i need a break from maths for a couple days :colonhash:


It's okay :redface: at A-level you can kind of get away with not knowing, apart from integration by substitution where you need to know.

Urgh, latex is being a nightmare.

If you had a substitution with u = x^(1/2) and the limits of x are 0 and 9, then the limits of u are 0 and 3 rather than 0 and -3.
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by SeanFM
It's okay :redface: at A-level you can kind of get away with not knowing, apart from integration by substitution where you need to know.

Urgh, latex is being a nightmare.

If you had a substitution with u = x^(1/2) and the limits of x are 0 and 9, then the limits of u are 0 and 3 rather than 0 and -3.


Yeah no i get the whole roots thing, my notation was just off :frown: instead of writing
±x=±y\pm \sqrt{x} = \pm y where i needed the ±\pm i would just write x=±y\sqrt{x}=\pm y. If i didn't need the negative root id omit the ±\pm entirely, which is wrong really :smile:
Another one of my notation errors, along with the implies arrows (i use     \iff nearly all the time, when i can't xD)
Original post by The-Spartan
Oh, thought you were saying that the square root does not equal plus or minus :redface:
Hmm, ive always written it as 1=±1\sqrt{1}=\pm 1 :frown:
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