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Amazing RAF airstrike on ISIS target

This is a pretty incredible video from the targeting pod on a Royal Air Force Tornado attack aircraft. It's targeting an ISIS truck which is carrying a vehicle on the tray (possibly being moved to a garage to be fitted out as a car bomb).

The Tornado fires a Brimstone missile which perfectly strikes the car. The truck itself wobbles off the road and comes to a halt, and the cab looks like it's ready to fall off. I suspect the driver of the truck was killed when the missile struck from shrapnel

[video="youtube;9ZN1twedjsE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZN1twedjsE[/video]
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Another similar strike of an ISIS car bomb

[video="youtube;lBXH_2Vh2y0"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBXH_2Vh2y0[/video]
What about their human rights? Who says we can simply go out and killing them?

Bring them home and give them fairness in trial
And some more good news from the front

Original post by SwedenYes
What about their human rights? Who says we can simply go out and killing them?


It's a battlefield. If you join Da'esh and pick up a rifle, you're a legitimate target for liquidation under international law.

Bring them home and give them fairness in trial


Most of the people we're killing out there aren't Brits, and even if they're not... they made a decision to go out to the most dangerous place on earth to join the most fascistic and evil group on earth. The moment they pick up a rifle on Da'esh's behalf they are a legitimate target
You suspect the driver was killed? It would say it would be a miracle if he survived a missile blowing up 5m behind him. Brimstone is a great precision capability, though!
Original post by Supersaps
You suspect the driver was killed? It would say it would be a miracle if he survived a missile blowing up 5m behind him. Brimstone is a great precision capability, though!


Indeed, for two reasons. First, Brimstone's warhead is directional in the forward quadrant and so the force of the blast would be moving in the direction of the truck's cab. He probably would have been shredded by shrapnel.

Second, the way the truck immediately after the blast slows down and rolls off the road, and looks as though it's not being steered anymore. That suggests to me the driver is no longer in control
Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
It's a battlefield. If you join Da'esh and pick up a rifle, you're a legitimate target for liquidation under international law.

Most of the people we're killing out there aren't Brits, and even if they're not... they made a decision to go out to the most dangerous place on earth to join the most fascistic and evil group on earth. The moment they pick up a rifle on Da'esh's behalf they are a legitimate target


It is more humane to try reintegrate them into society

They only become jihadis because of lack of a job
Awesome, good job.

Also to clarify, this isn't cod. He has next to no chance of surviving that.
Original post by SwedenYes
It is more humane to try reintegrate them into society

They only become jihadis because of lack of a job


99% you're a right-winger who is pretending to be an SJW

Frankly I find it ****ing tiresome. It's like that other idiot who constantly calls for us to surrender to ISIS, thinking he's mimicking the left or damaging their reputation.

It's boring and puerile
Original post by SwedenYes
What about their human rights? Who says we can simply go out and killing them?

Bring them home and give them fairness in trial


Hmmm
:s-smilie:
Original post by BeastOfSyracuse
99% you're a right-winger who is pretending to be an SJW

Frankly I find it ****ing tiresome. It's like that other idiot who constantly calls for us to surrender to ISIS, thinking he's mimicking the left or damaging their reputation.

It's boring and puerile


You are thinking I am joking about reintegrating returning fighters?

http://www.aftonbladet.se/ledare/ledarkronika/anderslindberg/article20653937.ab

It is a proven method that works
Though with modern technology it shouldn't be surprising, I am still amazed at how accurate and contained these strikes are.
Wouldn't really spend £90k a pop to blow up one piece of trash up tbh
Original post by BasicMistake
Though with modern technology it shouldn't be surprising, I am still amazed at how accurate and contained these strikes are.


Back in the 1970s during the Vietnam War, the Americans were desperately keen to destroy a North Vietnamese bridge they called the Dragon's Jaw. They sent hundreds of strikes against it, both from Air Force aircraft and from US Navy fighters launched off carriers. They literally launched hundreds of strikes against it trying to destroy it with unguided "dumb" bombs, and failed every time.

Finally in 1972, with the new technology of laser-guided bombs, they launched a single sortie of 12 F-4 Phantoms (6 carrying the laser-guided bombs, the other 6 "buddy-lasing" the target to provide the guidance) and took it out in a single pass. In the last 40 years the technology has only got better.

Even up until the Persian Gulf War in 1991, laser-guided bombs were really only able to take out a stationary target the size of a building. It was the same with the new GPS-guided bombs they brought in. But now with targeting pods that is basically like an extremely high-resolution, high-power telescopic camera with a laser attached (and the ability to use trigonometric algorithms to determine the GPS co-ordinate of a target it is looking at), they can hit targets down to a single human being who is moving.

The quality of the feeds is so high that an aircraft at 20,000 feet can look down through the targeting pod feed and look at an individual and tell what type of weapon they are carrying (rifle, shotgun etc). The UK and US militaries usually degrade the resolution of the video when they release it to the public so that we can't work out precisely how good these capabilities are. These days, a fighter aircraft with a modern targeting pod and modern munitions can hit within about 3 feet of the aimpoint, releasing from 20k feet and many miles away

[video="youtube;eDS_eA3FcU4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDS_eA3FcU4[/video]
Original post by Sameerio
Wouldn't really spend £90k a pop to blow up one piece of trash up tbh


That's not a valid way to look at it. I'd encourage you to read a book called Modern Arms and Free Men, by Vannevar Bush. It was written in about 1945 or 1946 iirc. Vannevar Bush was the scientific advisor to the US President in World War 2. He goes into a fascinating discussion about the interrelationship between the cost of a particular weapons system vs the degree to which it weakens the adversary vs the relative resources of the two enemies

For example, he analysed Hitler's V2 programme. In the end, it actually cost Hitler more to build and launch these rockets than it cost the Brits to repair the damage. You also have to look at this in light of the respective resources of the two belligerents; if the Third Reich was much richer than it was, then it still may have been to their advantage to launch them if, in light of their superior resources, the damage might hurt the UK more than the cost of the system weakened the Third Reich.

We can afford £100,000 per shot if it saves us having to put ground troops into the theatre. We are paying for the luxury of not having to put our troops directly in harms way (except for special forces). It also provides assurance of that kill, rather than having to drop dozens of unguided bombs for no guaranteed hit.

And let's say we fired a single Brimstone missile to kill each member of ISIS. 30,000 members x £100,000. That's £3 billion total. That's a cost the Western alliance could easily bear.

So you don't look at it and think, "Oh well we fired a £100k missile to destroy a £10k truck", you consider what using that missile provides in terms of not having to pursue alternative means of destroying it (ground troops, unguided munitions etc) and what that munition achieves in light of the respective resources of the UK vs ISIS. We can afford to fire off a £100k missile; at the moment they can't afford to lose any troops.

Edit: It looks like you can pick up a copy of Modern Arms and Free Men for about 60p. Check it out

http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Arms-Free-Men-Discussion/dp/B0006AS60K
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Original post by SwedenYes
You are thinking I am joking about reintegrating returning fighters?

http://www.aftonbladet.se/ledare/ledarkronika/anderslindberg/article20653937.ab

It is a proven method that works


Fine. You go catch them then.
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This video makes me so happy.
Thanks
Original post by Supersaps
You suspect the driver was killed? It would say it would be a miracle if he survived a missile blowing up 5m behind him. Brimstone is a great precision capability, though!


We have a better missile than any of the Americans? That's worth celebrating.

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