Why do white companies demand their employees write down their ethnic origin group?

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Reply 20

HOLA255

Original post by AndrewSCO

To be fair, he didn't say that non-white people were less able than white people

What did he say?

Reply 21

AndrewSCO

Original post by HOLA255

What did he say?

He said if a company have quotas to fill and out of the best candidates that applied there weren't enough ethnicities/females/whatevers then they may need to decline a white person who is slightly better than a non-white person to meet the quotas.

He didn't say all white people are better. Just that out of those who applied, which in Britain will be more white people than non-white statistically, there may be more white people who happen to have applied than meet whatever quota they have. And also not to say everyone who initially was wanted were all white either. Maybe the top 10 people were all non-white, there just weren't enough good ones who happened to apply with the best qualifications

Reply 22

HOLA255

Original post by AndrewSCO

Where are these quotas and for what companies?
They don't all have the race quota policies. Is it a law? What Statute reference is it?

Reply 23

999tigger

Its to monitor their equality policies, which help them meet their legal obligations. You dont have to complete the forms if you dont wish.
As Claire pointed out previously.

Reply 24

AndrewSCO

Even if they don't have official quotas, if a company is seen to have 95% male, white employers they'll get attacked for it. I don't know why you're being defensive over this, no one has said anything insulting or anything.

Many companies post their diversity stats in their annual reports or something similar. It's so they know their employee stats, can assess their hiring process and if anyone accuses them or asks them they have the numbers to back it up. I seriously doubt it's to avoid giving them the job, as mentioned, it probably gets non-white people more jobs.

I'm Scottish and went to an English uni, one of the most competitive. I was told on the open day that they had a quota of rest of the UK students they had to accept, and that this would probably help my application.

Reply 25

Erebor

Original post by AndrewSCO

This, repped. Too bad his ''1st Class Degree'' didn't teach him basic reasoning and how not to be a perpetual victim.

Reply 26

Vikingninja

**** sake are you still complaning about this?

Reply 27

Retired_Messiah

wtf is a "white" company? I wasn't aware companies had colours...

Reply 28

999tigger

Considering his frist class degree, then I'm surprised he cant do some basic research.
OP it works in your favour by trying to ensure fairness.

Reply 29

TimmonaPortella

Anyone else not answer these questions?

It feels a little bit too close to supporting quota ideas to me.

Reply 30

Smack

Volunteer Team

Original post by HOLA255

Why do white companies demand their employees write down their ethnic origin group and what their orientation is. What are they going to do with that information?

The short answer is that they don't.

On application forms there might be a section where you can specify your ethnicity (as well as gender, sexual orientation and religion), but this is almost always optional.

For jobs where you apply via CV and cover letter, LinkedIn, or get referred to (which are probably far more common than the above), you'll probably never need to write down your ethnicity.

Reply 31

Blackstarr

Maybe for indirect discrimination.

Reply 32

HOLA255

Original post by 999tigger

Considering his frist class degree, then I'm surprised he cant do some basic research.
OP it works in your favour by trying to ensure fairness.

You're the ones that are claiming these ideas. I want to know your sources.
I don't even know what search engines you are using? They each yield different search results.
Are your sources from the internet, not all the world's knowledge is contained within the Internet or Google.

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 33

999tigger

Original post by HOLA255

Its non compulsory. you dont have to fill it in if you dont want to, so they dont demand.

The source in peoples general understanding about disctimination and people making claims under discrimination laws. These have all been consolidated into the Equality Act 2010. If employers dont comply then an employee or applicant can bring a case for discrimination for which the employer cand be made to pay damages.

Employers prefer not to be sued, so they have policies which help them to show they are complying with the law.

Any search engine will locate this information. A basic search will reveal any number of organisations explaining what their equality, diversity and recruitment policies are.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 34

HOLA255

Original post by 999tigger

Best answer so far.

Reply 35

SmileyVibe

White companies? I thought pretty every company did that. Its just basic info like your gender,

Reply 36

username521617

Quotas, quotas, quotas.

I avoid mentioning my ethnicity on forms and applications if possible, lest I get 'positively' discriminated against. Equal opertunities my ass.

It's sad, but I every time I see a minority or woman get promoted, hired for something important, or get an award of whatever, I automatically assume it was due to tokenism. You just don't know anymore.

Reply 37

The_Internet

Original post by M14B

What is a white company?

http://www.whitesestateagents.co.uk/

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Reply 38

The_Internet

Original post by Erebor

This. So they can hire women/non-whites to fill their PC quotas even when those people are less able/qualified. Happens with uni applications as well. That's straight white male patriarchy for ya...