GUARDIAN : More British Muslims fight for Isis than the UK army?

Define Ummah.

There are many people of all races and religions that fits that description, yet it is only the Muslims that go to Syria. So those things cannot be the distinguishing factor.

First of all, many islamic terrorist are from well off families, educated and blend perfectly (look up the 9/11 bombers, the 7/7 terrorists, the marathon bombers, all these ''jihadi brides'' running away recently...). What do you think makes these ''outcasts'' feel the way they do and join ISIS? Is it anything to do with islam?

My hypothesis is muslims feels uneasy and angry at the status quo of current world order. Muslims see themselves as a former great world power as they once had a golden age (hence the idea of forming a caliphate), only forced to accept the reality that now western countries and civilization are doing better and islamic countries has become chaotic and lag behind western ones. Muslims in britain can connect with other muslims from far away countries despite the distance because they both share similar values, language and belief, just the same way australia and canada supported britain in WWII due to cultural and langauge similarities despite canada and australia are far away and has no whatsover to do with WWII.

Muslims want to see islamic power rise in world order so that they can feel proud and respected. But those with a good life and good career would not risk losing everything to emotions. However those with little to lose, and has a drive to seek something meaningful in life, in this context, would be martyrdom, ISIS offers everything they want.

Wonder how many people posting on this thread are in (or intend to join) the army...

There's obviously something attracting these individuals to ISIS, can't say for sure what it is

A British Muslim would be more of a pariah in their community if they joined the British armed forces than they'd be if they joined ISIS or Al Shabab.

So is the fact that the British Army is not "Muslim" enough a problem? Do we need a diversity campaign? Should we divert some of the MOD budget to promoting recruitment amongst Muslims?

71% of pakistanis either support ISIS or are ''unsure'' about them? How the **** are you ''unsure'' about ISIS??? That's 130 MILLION muslims in Pakistan alone. There are hundreds of millions more in the other countries. The worst thing is that I'm not even shocked anymore.http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/#comments

Not surprised, Pakistan has a long history of supporting militant groups, its government is not exactly the most tolerant.

My hypothesis is muslims feels uneasy and angry at the status quo of current world order. Muslims see themselves as a former great world power as they once had a golden age (hence the idea of forming a caliphate), only forced to accept the reality that now western countries and civilization are doing better and islamic countries has become chaotic and lag behind western ones. Muslims in britain can connect with other muslims from far away countries despite the distance because they both share similar values, language and belief, just the same way australia and canada supported britain in WWII due to cultural and langauge similarities despite canada and australia are far away and has no whatsover to do with WWII.

Muslims want to see islamic power rise in world order so that they can feel proud and respected. But those with a good life and good career would not risk losing everything to emotions. However those with little to lose, and has a drive to seek something meaningful in life, in this context, would be martyrdom, ISIS offers everything they want.

That's true but the biggest problem is the average, ''moderate'' muslim. There is no such thing, not by 21st century, Western standards anyway. Look how extreme or dismissive (at best) most TSR muslims are and these are the young, educated, ''Westernized'' ones... so what can you expect from a illiterate pakistani peasant?

What makes you think Australia had nothing to do with WWII? Australia was bombed by the Japanese during WWII and large parts of the country had to be evacuated. WWII also affected trade between Canada and Britain due to German U boats sinking ships in the Atlantic.

But it is only Muslims that joins the IS, not just the disenfranchised or losers amongst us.

There is an ISIS recruitment office near me.

Only white people join the KKK, same thing