Could Brexit result in Britain becoming a republic?
Brexit could be the end for the Royal family.
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
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I hope it does not. I dont like the Queen but Kate tough....She is competition to Queen Rania of Jordan...
Original post by Ambitious1999
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
As much i would love all that to be true, its a massive stretch.
Still voting brexit.
but when the SNP were proposing independence before the 2014 referendum, they weren't advocating republicanism - they still wanted the queen to be their head of state (I know, it's absolutely baffling)
Original post by Ambitious1999
Brexit could be the end for the Royal family.
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
Answer - Scotland needs the permission of the U.K. Government to hold a referendum any government regardless of snp calls for the next two decades will simply say this referendum was for the next generation. End of story. Also the queen owns those palaces so she wouldn't vacate them.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
Answer - So how does this massive recession come about? Eu exports account for 12% of uk economic output and 70% of that trade would continue to be tariff free even with no trade deal due to WTO rules. So that leaves only 3.6% of uk economic output at potential risk.
Assume no trade deal and a 20% reduction in exports to them which is extremely unlikely that is a drop of 0.72% of economic output in the most unlikely of scenarios.
Mate you're a joke learn what you are talking about.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
Answer - What the **** are you going on about?
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
Answer - Already completely debunked on point two
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
Answer - Scotland needs the permission of the U.K. Government to hold a referendum any government regardless of snp calls for the next two decades will simply say this referendum was for the next generation. End of story. Also the queen owns those palaces so she wouldn't vacate them.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
Answer - So how does this massive recession come about? Eu exports account for 12% of uk economic output and 70% of that trade would continue to be tariff free even with no trade deal due to WTO rules. So that leaves only 3.6% of uk economic output at potential risk.
Assume no trade deal and a 20% reduction in exports to them which is extremely unlikely that is a drop of 0.72% of economic output in the most unlikely of scenarios.
Mate you're a joke learn what you are talking about.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
Answer - What the **** are you going on about?
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
Answer - Already completely debunked on point two
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I expect a Republic would be more likely from staying (supposing staying through treaty change too) as the superstate is formed and sovereignty is lost entirely, the Queen would not be head of state of this super state and would ultimately be little more than a provincial governor, at most.
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Original post by Ambitious1999
Brexit could be the end for the Royal family.
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
You should really write Alternative History or Science Fiction novels with an imagination as bonkers as your's.
you forgot Northern Ireland
Original post by Frankie97
you forgot Northern Ireland
The situation in Northern Ireland is that the majority of Catholics and republicans want to remain in the EU. Catholics are fed up of being pulled away from Europe and/or Rome. First was King Henry VIII who cut them off from Rome now Brexit is about to cut them off from the EU which is largely catholic as is the ROI.
Quite rightfully the Catholics and republicans might want Northern Ireland unified with Southern Ireland which is in the EU.
This would anger unionists and lead to a new conflict in the Provence like in the 1970s and 80s.
Original post by Ambitious1999
The situation in Northern Ireland is that the majority of Catholics and republicans want to remain in the EU. Catholics are fed up of being pulled away from Europe and/or Rome. First was King Henry VIII who cut them off from Rome now Brexit is about to cut them off from the EU which is largely catholic as is the ROI.
Quite rightfully the Catholics and republicans might want Northern Ireland unified with Southern Ireland which is in the EU.
This would anger unionists and lead to a new conflict in the Provence like in the 1970s and 80s.
Quite rightfully the Catholics and republicans might want Northern Ireland unified with Southern Ireland which is in the EU.
This would anger unionists and lead to a new conflict in the Provence like in the 1970s and 80s.
You live on cloud cookoo land. Republicans just want to be part of Ireland, that's it , end of story.
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Original post by Ambitious1999
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1) Would the queen let Scotland go? I'm not sure. She wouldn't have to vacate all of them. Just the Palace of Holyroodhouse, depending on what the terms of independence are.
2) Would the queen let Wales go? I'm not sure. They're just titles so they'd sort out who becomes king/queen in the normal way.
2.5) You're forgetting a few countries.
3) Not really. They can still communicate with and travel to those countries in the same way as they could before the EU.
4a) Communism wouldn't increase that much, but a referendum will do nothing.
4b) I don't see much of England leaving. At a certain point the queen will put a stop to her power decreasing.
4c) I don't think this would happen. In any case she can ignore them.
4d) Like 4a). How would they abolish the Royal Family?
Face it, the Royal Family isn't going anywhere without a proper revolution.
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Original post by Ambitious1999
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
As noted previously, the proposal in the referendum was that the Queen would remain Scotland's head of state. Of course, that's something that could be changed in future. But note that not all the royal residences are owned by the Queen as head-of-state; some are privately owned, and the EU would probably take a very dim view of them being seized by the state.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The title of Prince of Wales is just that -- a title. The throne passes through descent; it just so happens that in general the next monarch will hold the title of Prince of Wales before he inherits. (Note that the Queen is queen without having held the title of Prince of Wales, or even Princess of Wales.)
In any case, what makes you think Wales would want to be a republic? It could become an independent state and still retain the Queen as head of state. It would be no different from Australia, New Zealand and Canada in this respect.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
Why/how is that in any way relevant?
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
Really? It would depend on how successful Wales and Scotland were as independent states. If the price of oil is low, Scotland would have difficulty funding itself. Where would Wales get its income from?
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
Why would they even care? And on the flip side, why would the Queen care what her distant relatives think? Do your distant relatives tell you what to do?
Don't forget that these royal families have been around for centuries, much longer than the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
People have seen how well communism worked in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. I'm sure there's little desire to see it repeated here in anyone's lifetime.
Original post by Jammy Duel
I expect a Republic would be more likely from staying (supposing staying through treaty change too) as the superstate is formed and sovereignty is lost entirely, the Queen would not be head of state of this super state and would ultimately be little more than a provincial governor, at most.
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This is complete and utter drivel.
Original post by gladders
This is complete and utter drivel.
So you're saying that IF a European superstate is formed all the Republics and few monarchies will all agree to make Her Majesty their head of state instead of making the aforementioned superstate a Republic?
One event can be more likely than another without being very likely. I'm more likely to become the Pope than POTUS, that doesn't mean it is probable that I will become the Pope.
Original post by Jammy Duel
So you're saying that IF a European superstate is formed all the Republics and few monarchies will all agree to make Her Majesty their head of state instead of making the aforementioned superstate a Republic?
One event can be more likely than another without being very likely. I'm more likely to become the Pope than POTUS, that doesn't mean it is probable that I will become the Pope.
One event can be more likely than another without being very likely. I'm more likely to become the Pope than POTUS, that doesn't mean it is probable that I will become the Pope.
I'm saying that the EU has not, did not have, and will not have the desire, the political will, or the ability to become a European superstate, especially when the peoples of Europe are barely less enthusiastic about it than the UK.
Original post by gladders
I'm saying that the EU has not, did not have, and will not have the desire, the political will, or the ability to become a European superstate, especially when the peoples of Europe are barely less enthusiastic about it than the UK.
Tell that to the people wanting to do it
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Name them.
Original post by Ambitious1999
Brexit could be the end for the Royal family.
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
So the UK leaves the EU,
1) Scotland demands independence so they can get back in the EU and they win the referendum. Scotland will become a republic and the queen will have to vacate her Scottish palaces.
2) Economic turmoil post Brexit and massive recession makes Wales decide they'd be better back in the EU so Wales leaves. Wales becomes a republic and the EU helps them rebuild their steel industry and economy. That means the prince of Wales no longer has that role and loses his status of Prince and can't become King neither can William and Harry.
The royal will only have England left to rule over.
3) Considering that the royal family is of German, Dutch and Greek origin then leaving the EU will disconnect them from their countries of Origin.
4) Economic turmoil in England could lead to several things:
a) The rise of communism that could demand a referendum on the royal family that we can't afford to keep.
b) Northern regions of England demand to unify with the Republic of Scotland. While the West Country and midlands demands unification with the Republic of Wales. That only leaves the South East of England left that is all that could remain of England.
c) Other royal families in Denmark, Spain, Holland etc demand that the queen abdicates for leaving the EU.
d) Since the end of WW2 the EU has thought against the spread of communism. Without the EU communism could grow in Britain and result in abolition of the Royal family.
So we see how Brexit can open a Pandora's box of problems.
If you love Britain then don't let Bre 'it become Break 'it !
Love Britain love the EU!
If aliens invade Earth, they will target the largest political entities first, such as the European Union. If Britain is outside of the EU when this occurs, they will simply view us as a few Islands of no significance or threat, and will hopefully leave us alone. Therefore, we must leave the EU.
What? My baseless scenario is just as valid as your baseless scenario.
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