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I am stuck on the last question of the January 2010 Unit 4 Chemistry Paper (EDEXCEL) It is question 26 showing two NMR Spectra and I am being asked to identify the structures of X and Y. I would really appreciate any help! I attempted the question and understood the first bit but the splitting patterns that I got don't match with the MS :/ Does it matter what order it is in?
Original post by blueangel328
I am stuck on the last question of the January 2010 Unit 4 Chemistry Paper (EDEXCEL) It is question 26 showing two NMR Spectra and I am being asked to identify the structures of X and Y. I would really appreciate any help! I attempted the question and understood the first bit but the splitting patterns that I got don't match with the MS :/ Does it matter what order it is in?


Hiya! I moved this to the chemistry forum for you - you're more likely to get a good answer here :smile:
Thankss!!
Original post by blueangel328
I am stuck on the last question of the January 2010 Unit 4 Chemistry Paper (EDEXCEL) It is question 26 showing two NMR Spectra and I am being asked to identify the structures of X and Y. I would really appreciate any help! I attempted the question and understood the first bit but the splitting patterns that I got don't match with the MS :/ Does it matter what order it is in?


It would help if you posted your working :smile: and the question, if possible. Do you know how to link to an image or attach one?
Original post by Kvothe the arcane
It would help if you posted your working :smile: and the question, if possible. Do you know how to link to an image or attach one?


http://qualifications.pearson.com/content/dam/pdf/A%20Level/Chemistry/2013/Exam%20materials/6CH04_01_que_20100127.pdf

This is the link, it's the very last question (Q26). Hope this helps :smile:


This question is about compounds X, C4H10O, and Y, C4H8O.
(a) Compound X, C4H10O, can be oxidized to compound Y, C4H8O.

The IR of X suggests hydrogen bonded OH group, i.e. we are dealing with an alcohol.

NMR X:

multiplet 3.7
singlet 2.4
multiplet 1.5
doublet 1.2
triplet 0.9

five different environments
primary alcohol
CH3CH2CH2CH2OH = five environments

secondary alcohol
CH3CHOHCH2CH3 = five environments

tertiary alcohol can't be oxidised

So we look at the splitting patterns:
primary alcohol
CH3CH2CH2CH2OH

In order (left to right)
CH3 gives a triplet (adjacent to CH2)
CH2 gives a triplet of quartets (nasty multiplet)
CH2 gives a triplet of triplets (nasty multiplet)
CH2 gives a triplet (not split by OH)
OH gives a singlet (not split by CH2)

secondary alcohol
CH3CHOHCH2CH3

CH3 gives a doublet (adjacent to CH)
CH gives a triplet of quartets (nasty multiplet)
CH2 gives a doublet of quartets (nasty multiplet)
CH3 gives a triplet
OH gives a singlet (not split by CH)

Hence spectrum given is the secondary alcohol.

On oxidation the secondary alcohol would produce a ketone, butan-2-one

CH3COCH2CH3

NMR of this would expect:
CH3 gives a singlet
CH2 gives quartet (adjacent to CH3)
CH3 gives a triplet

Which matches perfectly the spectrum given.

The last stage is to show that the chemical shift of each signal corresponds to its data book value.
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Original post by charco
This question is about compounds X, C4H10O, and Y, C4H8O.
(a) Compound X, C4H10O, can be oxidized to compound Y, C4H8O.

The IR of X suggests hydrogen bonded OH group, i.e. we are dealing with an alcohol.

NMR X:

multiplet 3.7
singlet 2.4
multiplet 1.5
doublet 1.2
triplet 0.9

five different environments
primary alcohol
CH3CH2CH2CH2OH = five environments

secondary alcohol
CH3CHOHCH2CH3 = five environments

tertiary alcohol can't be oxidised

So we look at the splitting patterns:
primary alcohol
CH3CH2CH2CH2OH

In order (left to right)
CH3 gives a triplet (adjacent to CH2)
CH2 gives a triplet of quartets (nasty multiplet)
CH2 gives a triplet of triplets (nasty multiplet)
CH2 gives a triplet (not split by OH)
OH gives a singlet (not split by CH2)

secondary alcohol
CH3CHOHCH2CH3

CH3 gives a doublet (adjacent to CH)
CH gives a triplet of quartets (nasty multiplet)
CH2 gives a doublet of quartets (nasty multiplet)
CH3 gives a triplet
OH gives a singlet (not split by CH)

Hence spectrum given is the secondary alcohol.

On oxidation the secondary alcohol would produce a ketone, butan-2-one

CH3COCH2CH3

NMR of this would expect:
CH3 gives a singlet
CH2 gives quartet (adjacent to CH3)
CH3 gives a triplet

Which matches perfectly the spectrum given.

The last stage is to show that the chemical shift of each signal corresponds to its data book value.


Thank you so much for explaining that :smile: Such a great detailed answer, I'm starting to have hope with these questions hehe

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