Original post by ivybridgeI don't understand how you are coming to these conclusions. The whole 'society needs to exist as such heterosexual intercourse is necessary' argument is so irrelevant for two key reasons:
1. The world is vastly overpopulated - '4-6%' of the population being queer is not going to change that. Gays men/women also use their sperm/eggs to procreate through surrogates and so on. This argument is invalid entirely.
2. People are still reproducing. I don't understand the need for this anxiety? The vast majority of the world engages in heterosexual sex and reproduces. It's not some crisis if gays become accepted and "normalised" (lmfao). Have you not learnt from recent history? Oh and by the way, homosexuality has always been there. It was accepted in mainstream society in the Ancient Greeks and look, nothing happened, we've evolved, we're still here. The fear and anxiety surrounding reproduction is entirely irrational.
Oh and just as a slight side-note, using 'liberals' does not make you sound politically in-tune so give up. Our prime minister is a conservative and he put forward gay marriage - he is not a liberal. And without liberalist approaches, you wouldn't enjoy many of the freedoms you do today. We all moan far too much about absolutely everything.
Homosexuality is not an act. It is a predisposition. Just like all other legitimate sexual orientations. Just because you say "I'm not prejudiced", does not mean you can say subtly prejudiced things and it validates them - no. And using religion is a very unstable thing to do and don't just do it because it suits your argument. Religion says an awful lot of things that have been completely removed from modern secular society and because it doesn't suit your debate, you ignore it. Accept the reality of these issues.
Gender is, as psychologically supported, a social construct and calling it society's biggest threat is laughable. Children are brought up wearing things that ascribe to their gender, boys playing with cars and girls with dolls or pony toys because of gender social constructs. I suggest you read H. Berten's Literary Theory: The Basics. He is a critic who explains feminism and gender amazingly well, in a way that will help you to understand the truth behind these conventions. It is very easy to see that they are constructs. We made them, just as we made religion. Saying they are not constructs is absolutely ridiculous. Biology and science did not pre-determine the clothes we wear or the roles we take, or the toys you play with as a child and the colours you love. There is a role of biology in constructs, I stress a role, but it is not the overwhelming feature. Sociology and psychology are much more prominent.
Secondly, you are mixing up gender fluidity with transgenderism. In order to be given hormone treatment, you usually have to be about 16 years of age as a minimum. I do not get the impression, at all, that you actually understand what you're talking about here. I really don't. You are mixing up very different terms and concluding that they are the same. They are not. In order to begin the transitioning process as a trans-man or trans-woman, you have to go through very rigorous psychological assessments and a lot of different precautions are taken. You can't just do it. You're pretending that it's flippantly done and easy. It is not. Transsexuality hasn't just come out of thin air and it hasn't just come out of socio-political movements either. It has been something which has existed underneath a web of interior complications. All 'liberals' have done, if you like, is made society face them and accept them as real because they are. It never ceases to amaze me how people refer to things like this as though they're not real, and that it's people trying to seek attention and be complicated. You could not be further from the truth. These issues can absolutely destroy people's lives. As an openly gay man, I can safely say that this society, regardless of how progressive it is, has contributed to a deterioration in my mental health and the mental health states of multiple LGBTQIA people around the globe. People are murdered for being LGBTQIA; people cannot go to certain countries; people cannot have a straight forward life because everything is a battle. Nobody would want this, I can tell you that for free. I understand that you were not arguing for it all being a choice but the way you so flippantly refer to it like its a dangerous 'belief' leads me to feel deeply troubled. I just cannot fathom why you have such a deluded understanding of something so blatant and the fact you seem too set in your ways to accept a modicum of education makes you just as bad as those you feel you have a reason to complain about.
Thirdly, feminism and sexual orientation, gender and transsexual issues are separate. Indeed, feminism, sex and gender are instinctively paired but they have differences. For example, the leader of the current wave of feminism is Germaine Greer, who has spoken out against transsexuality. You are misled in your assertions. There is no direct difference between the male and female brain as far as I am aware, in relation to the issues you are discussing. People do not argue that transgender people are born with the wrong 'brain'. Do you realise how absurd your claims are? I feel this stems largely from your irrational assumption that gender does not exist. It does and it is not the same as sex if it does.
I think you need to step back and seriously think about these things. You sound very ignorant and bigoted and that isn't me calling you a bigot, its me saying that is how you come across. So step back and think these things through. Your statements are full of absolute nonsense, and then you have the audacity to say the opposing arguments are when they make significantly more rational sense.