This Muslim Girl

Let's be honest, in this situation OP isn't a child. If he's looking for what appears to be a wife, then clearly he possess full autonomy and I'm more than sure his parents aren't forcing anything upon him!

Besides that, I agree with your point. Religion needs to be explored by an individual, as opposed to having religion forced upon you.

@Leah Johnson. Actually now that I re-read what you wrote, I realise that you insulted me.

Like who are you to judge me?

Anyone with any common sense can see Islam is not logical.

I'll do what I want, if I want a hijabi to think that I am still Muslim then I will.

Regardless of what yo think, your opinion is irrelevant to me.

Clearly i have more common sense tan you, to know that deceiving a girl and your parents is not okay.

You can do what you want. I cant force you. But i can point out how stupid you are. you can let her and other people think what you want, but it just shows that even IF you don't have relationship with anyone, it wont go well or wont even last long because you were deceiving her.

The fact that you think its okay to deceive her makes this even more disgusting.

My school is full of sh***y boys like you.

Of course my opinion is irrelevant to someone like you. That's EXACTLY what an ignorant person would say. I was even EXPECTING you to say that to me. I'm okay with that though, because YOUR the one in this messed up situation. your doing this to yourself.

Have a nice life.

I agree, but if I end up marrying a westernised girl who doesn't adhere to wearing an hijab or reading of the Q'uran.

Then I am afraid my family will continue to push me away and shunning me from their lives.

I have quite a large family and they all pretty much despise me for admitting to being a "kufar".

I don't know, maybe I should just end it. I don't want to end up living unhappy or depressed after all.

My family know I have become a "kafir", that's why they look down on me. I didn't even have to tell them, they knew from my actions.

But this girl is a way for me to prove myself to them. And I will do what I want. So you and the rest of the Muslim community can insult me as much as you want. But I will use this girl to prove to my family that I have changed, and if it doesn't work between me and this girl, I will just find another hijabi.

So bye.

Anyway the only reason I am pursing this girl is so my parents will be proud of me, and they will think that I've changed and begin loving me again.

My friends know and they're open minded about it, they're pretty amazing tbh. I can have open conversations with my muslim friends and they never judge, we've had pretty heated discussions before but it always ends in laughter with no hard feelings. Some people who know do judge but I tend to avoid the word atheist and just stick to laying myself as an agnostic. I know i shouldn't care what others think but its hard and i feel a weird sort of guilt when they look at me all like 'wtf is WRONG with you?' I suppose they can't help being so close minded but it is irritating af at the same time. No one in my family knows the full extent of my lack of belief but they do know that i have a tendency to ask 'but why' a thousand times

I know that London is suppose to have a really strong Muslim community, at least thats what i know from my cousins who live in East London (I'm from Manchester btw) so maybe its just the community you're living in? What caused you to become an atheist?

Wait. So does the girl know that you are an ex-Muslim or not? I am kinda confused. Are you not going to tell her? And why?

No I won't. Because it will just defeat the purpose as to why I am pursing her in the first place. Why tell her? when she herself is already concrete in her belief. That would be me shooting myself in the foot.

It's a pretence, I have told no-one as yet that I am an ex-Muslim, apart from TSR.

I've been seeing this really pious Muslim girl, we are not in a relationship. Because that's haram, But we both like each other, everything was cool between us.

But the only problem is that she doesn't know I am a ex-Muslim, and basically she makes my world black and white, her personality is bland and her life revolves around her doctrine.

She don't even listen to Music, because she doesn't approve of the explicit lyrics which might insinuate "sexual thoughts".

So one day we were in the car and sitting in traffic in pure silence. So I started getting irritated and incredibly bored, and felt slightly mischievous.

Soooo I switched on the radio, and had a random outburst and started skanking/dancing to P Money a grime artist on full blast. She was shocked looked at me like I was mad.

Anyway the next day I called her that evening and the conversation was getting tiresome, so I felt mischievous again and began blatantly asking x-rated questions, she was gasping acting horrified by my sudden change in behaviour and said she didn't want to be with me any more. So I "apologised" and told I was going to change and begin reading the Q'uran everyday, and would stop my rebellious ways.

And since then she doesn't pick up my calls, and ignores my texts. I am apprehensive she doesn't want me any more.

What do I do to get her to like me again?

Anyway the only reason I am pursing this girl is so my parents will be proud of me, and they will think that I've changed and begin loving me again.

I just don't know if me and this girl work especially considering I am quite rebellious and love breaking rules.

But honestly do you not think that it is playing with someone's life. Be honest. I don't want to judge you as I do not know you. But be very careful as hiding something like can be no joke to some people and can land one in complex situations with severe consequences.

All I am saying is that starting any type of a relationship with a lie or pretence is not really the right way. Hope you understand.

just saying, in my opinion you sound great

I guess just try and talk to her, but it seems like you're only pursuing her to please ur parents
when u said ur going to read qur'an was that just for her or for urself??

Yes I do want to please my family, but at the same time I do genuinely care about her and I am not just "using her". My parents have always been fond of her, so I just want to make them proud.

And to be honest I said it "for her", just so she would feel at ease knowing that I am trying to change and follow the "deen". But I've tried to accept Islam but my morale beliefs just won't allow it, plus Islam makes life rather boring. :/

I completely understand. I will eventually tell her that I am in fact an "apostate", I won't always keep this a secret from her, as I know morally it is wrong to lie to someone like this, especially if you are looking to form a relationship.

At the beginning of our friendship I was a strong believer, but it's only of recent that I've started losing my faith, so it will be very hard for me to suddenly tell her "I am a kafir", as I've known her since childhood, and she's always known me to be pious like her.

And I am glad you are not judging me from this thread like most Muslims on here are.

You seem to be a lot more open minded and mature I respect that.

so you do care for her but do you both have the same kind of feelings for each other? I rly wouldn't drag her along just to please your parents tbh. If she was horrified at the music thing I doubt she's going to want to be with you if she can't get over a bit of music??

you rly should talk to her about whether she's willing to be with someone who doesnt follow islam like she does

I've been seeing this really pious Muslim girl, we are not in a relationship. Because that's haram, But we both like each other, everything was cool between us.

But the only problem is that she doesn't know I am a ex-Muslim, and basically she makes my world black and white, her personality is bland and her life revolves around her doctrine.

She don't even listen to Music, because she doesn't approve of the explicit lyrics which might insinuate "sexual thoughts".

So one day we were in the car and sitting in traffic in pure silence. So I started getting irritated and incredibly bored, and felt slightly mischievous.

Soooo I switched on the radio, and had a random outburst and started skanking/dancing to P Money a grime artist on full blast. She was shocked looked at me like I was mad.

Anyway the next day I called her that evening and the conversation was getting tiresome, so I felt mischievous again and began blatantly asking x-rated questions, she was gasping acting horrified by my sudden change in behaviour and said she didn't want to be with me any more. So I "apologised" and told I was going to change and begin reading the Q'uran everyday, and would stop my rebellious ways.

And since then she doesn't pick up my calls, and ignores my texts. I am apprehensive she doesn't want me any more.

What do I do to get her to like me again?

Anyway the only reason I am pursing this girl is so my parents will be proud of me, and they will think that I've changed and begin loving me again.

I just don't know if me and this girl work especially considering I am quite rebellious and love breaking rules.

the only one thing you can't understand it is that (when a Muslim girl or non-muslim girl love you she will keep u away from risk and disaster, because she love u)and because she love u she wan't u to safe ur life and go to Jannah and that sit i hope you understand it moreover, for everyone talk about ISLAM it just don't believe what u heard and see on T.V they are a lire they want to make people hate Muslim people becuase they do not want people to believe in Islam the religion of truth, justice and peace