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Boris: 'The EU wants a superstate, just as Hitler did.'

Firing the big guns now.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/14/boris-johnson-the-eu-wants-a-superstate-just-as-hitler-did/

Dangerous tactic. He's absolutely correct, but there's a danger the British electorate, having been sold an absolute lie as to the origins of fascism*, won't be able to draw the connection, and will view it as undignified.

*The Nazi Party: 'The National Socialist German Workers Party.' There's a reason they never give them their full title. Fascism was supported by communists and progressives in the UK all throughout the 20's and into the 30's (they called it 'liberal fascism') and like most modern movements it's underpinned by communist class warfare, undermining individualism in favour of the group, statism and totalitarian narrative control.

**Even in Italy, Mussolini, in his Fascist Manifesto, advocated a minimum wage, pandering to the unions, progressive taxation and lowering the voting age. Despite this, and the right's very long tradition of decentralisation and liberal individualism, even the Oxford English Dictionary pins fascism to the right-wing (then again, like most progressive institutions it hankers after narrative control). There is zero logical basis for doing so, but the narrative has been sold to western society.
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Original post by ImmunetoShaming
Firing the big guns now.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/14/boris-johnson-the-eu-wants-a-superstate-just-as-hitler-did/

Dangerous tactic. He's absolutely correct, but there's a danger the British electorate, having been sold an absolute lie as to the origins of fascism*, won't be able to draw the connection, and will view it as undignified.

*The Nazi Party: 'The National Socialist German Workers Party.' There's a reason they never give them their full title. Fascism was supported by communists and progressives in the UK all throughout the 20's and into the 30's, and like most modern movements it's underpinned by communist class war politics, undermining individualism in favour of the group, statism and totalitarian narrative control.

**Even in Italy, Mussolini, in his Fascist Manifesto, advocated a minimum wage, pandering to the unions, progressive taxation and lowering the voting age. Despite this, and the right's very long tradition of decentralisation and liberal individualism, even the Oxford English Dictionary pins fascism to the right-wing (then again, like most progressive institutions it hankers after narrative control). There is zero logical basis for doing so, but the narrative has been sold to western society.


Don't be stupid. The EU wasn't around between 1933 and 1945
Original post by theunitedGOAT
Don't be stupid. The EU wasn't around between 1933 and 1945


What are you talking about? I never said it was.
Reply 3
Original post by theunitedGOAT
Don't be stupid. The EU wasn't around between 1933 and 1945


:eek:
Original post by ImmunetoShaming
Firing the big guns now.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/14/boris-johnson-the-eu-wants-a-superstate-just-as-hitler-did/

Dangerous tactic. He's absolutely correct, but there's a danger the British electorate, having been sold an absolute lie as to the origins of fascism*, won't be able to draw the connection, and will view it as undignified.

*The Nazi Party: 'The National Socialist German Workers Party.' There's a reason they never give them their full title. Fascism was supported by communists and progressives in the UK all throughout the 20's and into the 30's (they called it 'liberal fascism') and like most modern movements it's underpinned by communist class warfare, undermining individualism in favour of the group, statism and totalitarian narrative control.

**Even in Italy, Mussolini, in his Fascist Manifesto, advocated a minimum wage, pandering to the unions, progressive taxation and lowering the voting age. Despite this, and the right's very long tradition of decentralisation and liberal individualism, even the Oxford English Dictionary pins fascism to the right-wing (then again, like most progressive institutions it hankers after narrative control). There is zero logical basis for doing so, but the narrative has been sold to western society.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179902/Revealed-The-secret-report-shows-Nazis-planned-Fourth-Reich--EU.html
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Reply 5
And so it begins
Now we will see how stupid the British people really are.

First leave, then Boris as PM?

Would be hugely ironic given what he stands for and what he has now said.
Reply 7
So Hitler and mussolini are left wing now? What will the right wing extreme do to wriggle out of their denial infested holes next?
Reply 8
Original post by N-R-G
So Hitler and mussolini are left wing now? What will the right wing extreme do to wriggle out of their denial infested holes next?


Of course Hitler was left wing. Are you REALLY this thick?.

N.A.Z.I = National Socialist German Workers' Party
Original post by Truth2u
Of course Hitler was left wing. Are you REALLY this thick?.

N.A.Z.I = National Socialist German Workers' Party


Lol
Reply 10
Original post by Truth2u
Of course Hitler was left wing. Are you REALLY this thick?.

N.A.Z.I = National Socialist German Workers' Party


No, Hitler was a right wing extremist. Everyone knows that.
Reply 11
Original post by N-R-G
No, Hitler was a right wing extremist. Everyone knows that.


Everybody being "you" then
Reply 12
Original post by Truth2u
Everybody being "you" then


Yes me and every other right minded person on the planet.
Reply 13
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Some people here don't understand that the scale is not just a line but a 2 dimensional graph.
Reply 16
LoL I cant believe he said that it's quite a profound statement and has made me see Hitler in a different light. He changed though and became a right wing extremist.
Original post by N-R-G
LoL I cant believe he said that it's quite a profound statement and has made me see Hitler in a different light. He changed though and became a right wing extremist.


He was a still a Socialist. Where the National part comes in is that it was Socialism for the master race only as opposed to Socialism for everyone.


I find it absolutely hilarious when people blame Hitler on socialism. Or use Hitler to demonise socialism. Every other country which flourishes under socialism, and because one mad man ruled under the guise of socialism, you think that discredits the entire poltiical system. Such sound logic there.
Reply 19
Original post by JamesN88
He was a still a Socialist. Where the National part comes in is that it was Socialism for the master race only as opposed to Socialism for everyone.


Exactly he thought of the Germans as a master race and that jews were inferior whereas Marx thought everyone was capable of equality.

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