Egyptair plane with 66 passengers disappears from radar

WTH is going on right now?

First Egyptair says they have found the wreckage, now they retract the claim, then the US say they've found no evidence of an explosion????

What is going on is that lots of people were jumping to conclusions and are now retreating from them.

Terrorism is the most likely cause of this accident in the same way that Manchester United is the most likely winner of the FA Cup. That doesn't mean that Crystal Palace supporters should spend Saturday doing the gardening.

We know less than we think

This is a forum for professional pilots:-

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/579183-egyptair-804-disappears-radar-paris-cairo-12.html

As you can see, these violent turns in the descent may be entirely fictitious.

Even the poster who questions whether the plane has crashed at all, is not "shot down in flames" by other posters because this is a credible though unlikely scenario based on known information.

Those people are all pilots?

Also we shouldn't forget that EgyptAir has past form for that.

Those people are all pilots?

If so, this comment jumped out:

"While an unlikely scenario, the point of disappearance is exactly in the middle of the "blind spot" for both Greek and Egyptian primary radar below FL100, and there are plenty of runways in Northern Libya within expected endurance where an A320 could land. Hiding it after daybreak from prying satellite eyes is another story, and were this the case we would probably have heard the demands by now..."

Lots of possible dimensions to this, but it must be intriguing that it went down in a blind spot. It opens the possibility that this is another Malaysian Airlines pilot suicide thing. Also we shouldn't forget that EgyptAir has past form for that.

this nonsense is just insulting to the memories of the innocent victims.

I think they are just trying to be detached and clinical about it and analyse the various possibilities. Of course that wouldn't read well (and neither would a lot of this thread and threads to come on TSR) to the relatives of the people involved. If I was one of them, I would probably be tearing my hair out in frustration at all the rumours.

making up bull fantasy stories about secret abductions does not count as analysis.

These experts, like you and me, have nothing on the situation. The only thing they have is their credentials, but that doesn't change the fact that these people are absolutely in the dark as to what happened.

The reason people are labelling this as terrorism is because of Egypt, they claimed this was more likely to be a terrorist incident rather than mechanical failure. This is more likely because they want people looking to come to Egypt to ignore the fact that there have been serious incidents on three EgyptAir flights in the last year.

Nothing about the flight pattern indicates terrorism, as I said several times, it couldn't have been bombed because the plane was known to swerve left and then right into a full circle - a plane at 37,000 feet would have been obliterated into smaller pieces just like MH17 and the earlier EgyptAir planes were, except the EgyptAir one last year was at 31,000 feet - so a bomb on todays plane would most certainly have caused it to be destroyed completely and unable to perform this 'left and right turn'. Unless it was a tiny bomb which killed the crew only, but that seems less likely.

History shows that a bombed plane would rapidly drop altitude and speed, evidently something else happened here.

You don't believe the pilot in MH370 more or less did exactly that, except that he crashed it instead of flying it to a runway somewhere?

You don't believe the pilot in MH370 more or less did exactly that, except that he crashed it instead of flying it to a runway somewhere?

i have not analysed the evidence for every single aviation tragedy in the world. i have a life, unlike the unfortunate people at the bottom of the Mediterranean.

You're on the wrong thread then, come on you must have a favourite conspiracy theory from the last 13 pages?

conspiracy theories ( pace Fullofsurprises ) are really only appropriate for 12 year olds who breakfast on Doritos and Relentless.

I had Doritos for breakfast this morning. Are you watching me bear?

Complete drivel.

You accused the 'experts' of not knowing what they are dealing with and then go on to make huge assumptions about how an aircraft would behave and disintegrate without knowing the root cause or circumstances leading up to the loss and then dismissing outright an act of terrorism!

May as well read tea leaves.

bear™ rests his case

I'm not making assumptions, I am basing it on past study of similar incidents.