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What could be written about the character of slim?

I have this feeling that the exam tomorrow on OMAM in edexcel may be on Slim, as he hasn't yet come up in any of the edexcel exams.
However i don't know what social or historical context to relate him too and what theme i could relate him too.


Please help me...
Original post by tangareen
I have this feeling that the exam tomorrow on OMAM in edexcel may be on Slim, as he hasn't yet come up in any of the edexcel exams.
However i don't know what social or historical context to relate him too and what theme i could relate him too.


Please help me...


ok

So you could relate him to theme about dreams. He is the ANTITHESIS of the novel (opposite) He represents the opposite of someone seeking the American dream.

he doesn't dream -> he's a realistic thinker
The fact that he's the most successful character(other than the boss) suggests that accepting reality leads to better choices.

He has accepted his way of life(something the other workers can't do) and can still be happy
At the same time, he has compassion as well - something most workers lack (ie, Carlson)
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Original post by ZiggyStarDust_
ok

So you could relate him to theme about dreams. He is the ANTITHESIS of the novel (opposite) He represents the opposite of someone seeking the American dream.

he doesn't dream -> he's a realistic thinker
The fact that he's the most successful character(other than the boss) suggests that accepting reality leads to better choices.

He has accepted his way of life(something the other workers can't do) and can still be happy
At the same time, he has compassion as well - something most workers lack (ie, Carlson)


Wow, I hadn't thought about that side of him. Could I also include friendship as his authority was so great?

That is so helpful.
Much appreciated
I got this from someone else but i thought it was quite good

Slim &Power/Status- Steinbeck described him as "prince of the ranch" - When first introduced he was described as a (respectable)leader "when he had finished combing his hair he moved into the room, andhe moved with a majesty only achieved by royalty and master craftsmen"- From the beginning he was portrayed as royal and noble- Everyone on the ranch knew that Slim had power- Even Curley followed Slim's orders- "he moved with a majesty only achieved byroyalty." his mere manner makes him seem almost like a king- When George and Lennie first see Slim - "There was agravity in his manner and a quiet so profound that all talk stopped when hespoke. His authority was so great that his word was taken on any subject, be itpolitics or love" he was well respected because of his authority on theranch Slim &Curley's Wife- Slim's fit and healthy, meaning he attracts the attentionof Curley's Wife - she addresses him by name, and he calls her "goodlookin'"- Unlike the rest of the ranch workers, he's not afraid ofCurley’s Wife - he gives her the attention she so desperately wants,demonstrating that he's also not afraid of Curley Slim &Other Stuff - He was a brave and noble character- Always there at every key event in the novella - he helpsmake sure that what is done is merciful or rightHe also relates to the theme of friendship, between him and George. You can also talk about how he is respectful to Crooks and Curley's wife.
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Original post by ediehasquestions
I got this from someone else but i thought it was quite good

Slim &Power/Status- Steinbeck described him as "prince of the ranch" - When first introduced he was described as a (respectable)leader "when he had finished combing his hair he moved into the room, andhe moved with a majesty only achieved by royalty and master craftsmen"- From the beginning he was portrayed as royal and noble- Everyone on the ranch knew that Slim had power- Even Curley followed Slim's orders- "he moved with a majesty only achieved byroyalty." his mere manner makes him seem almost like a king- When George and Lennie first see Slim - "There was agravity in his manner and a quiet so profound that all talk stopped when hespoke. His authority was so great that his word was taken on any subject, be itpolitics or love" he was well respected because of his authority on theranch Slim &Curley's Wife- Slim's fit and healthy, meaning he attracts the attentionof Curley's Wife - she addresses him by name, and he calls her "goodlookin'"- Unlike the rest of the ranch workers, he's not afraid ofCurley’s Wife - he gives her the attention she so desperately wants,demonstrating that he's also not afraid of Curley Slim &Other Stuff - He was a brave and noble character- Always there at every key event in the novella - he helpsmake sure that what is done is merciful or rightHe also relates to the theme of friendship, between him and George. You can also talk about how he is respectful to Crooks and Curley's wife.





Thank you so much for finding this, it was so helpful and so concise. It's got quotes and refers to themes, thanks again.
Original post by tangareen
Wow, I hadn't thought about that side of him. Could I also include friendship as his authority was so great?

That is so helpful.
Much appreciated


yes, you could

you could use the fact that slim approves of George killing Lennie when he says "you hadda" as an example
his friendship serves as a comfort to George that he did the right thing - and helps remove some of George's guilt as well

you're welcome! good luck for the exam (-:
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Original post by ZiggyStarDust_
yes, you could

you could use the fact that slim approves of George killing Lennie when he says "you hadda" as an example
his friendship serves as a comfort to George that he did the right thing - and helps remove some of George's guilt as well

you're welcome! good luck for the exam (-:


Great!
Thank you so much, you've helped me a lot, I bet you did really well in your exam.
Original post by tangareen
I have this feeling that the exam tomorrow on OMAM in edexcel may be on Slim, as he hasn't yet come up in any of the edexcel exams.
However i don't know what social or historical context to relate him too and what theme i could relate him too.


Please help me...



Slim is the only character who has a some what positive description which could link to the theme of fate. Despite slim being the 'nicest' man on the ranch, he is like the other workers; he lives in the same bunkhouse as the men and wears the same clothing. Which links to the idea that he has the same fate as the other workers; to work for someone else.
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Original post by dumbgirlneed2pas
Slim is the only character who has a some what positive description which could link to the theme of fate. Despite slim being the 'nicest' man on the ranch, he is like the other workers; he lives in the same bunkhouse as the men and wears the same clothing. Which links to the idea that he has the same fate as the other workers; to work for someone else.


Oh yes, so would I be able to relate that to the American dream historical context, because I need to include some information about the context to?

Also thank you very much for them information you just shared with me, thanks
Original post by tangareen
Oh yes, so would I be able to relate that to the American dream historical context, because I need to include some information about the context to?

Also thank you very much for them information you just shared with me, thanks


Yes always comment on the context. you could link it to the fact that steinbeck is showing the futility of the american dream.
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Original post by dumbgirlneed2pas
Yes always comment on the context. you could link it to the fact that steinbeck is showing the futility of the american dream.


Thank you for your help, telling me about the context is really helpful.
I am grateful
Is slim likely to come up on the AQA exam tomorrow as well?
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Original post by Thomas James
Is slim likely to come up on the AQA exam tomorrow as well?


I'm not quite sure. From what I read he had come up last in the year 2013 in the AQA paper.
Sorry I couldn't help much
Slim has come up before! :smile:
Reply 14
Original post by sulaimanali
Slim has come up before! :smile:


Is that in edexcel or AQA?
"A guy goes crazy if he ain't got nobody"
Crooks
Isolation

This quote suggests that being isolated from others and socialising, it can make one out of one's mind because they aren't learning new things and aren't communicating to another person about how they may feel. In this case, Crooks is out of his mind because he is discriminated against, diffused from the others as well as segregated from others because of his race. He is the only character in the play who really deserves to be able to talk to somebody about how he feels. When this opportunity had risen, Crooks was overwhelmed and told Lennie that he "Don't have no right to come in here". As innocent as Lennie is, he let this go over his head and proceeded.
An alternative interpretation of the quote is the fact that it is a double negative. This means that what the quote is really saying is that 'A guy goes crazy if he's got everybody'. This means that by being friends with everybody and being overly popular, it can 'get to your head' and make one feel prestigious and above everybody else, for example, Slim. The reader feels a sense of tension or slight jealousy when Slim says "funny how you an' him string along together", this is because friendship was such a rare thing to happen to men in ranches, even George says "Men like us that work on the ranches, are the loneliest in the world". Slim may be envious of this friendship because, although he is popular amongst everybody in the ranch, he doesn't seem to have somebody he likes to spend the majority of his time with like George does with Lennie. In this sense, he blends into the background just like everybody else - this can be further proved by the fact that he is wearing the same clothes as everybody else on the ranch and he is not wearing anything to define his popularity; Slim, and others around him, were described as "wearing a short blue denim jacket". Slim is said to "look through George and beyond him". This tells us that Slim can understand George's background and everything he has to do for Lennie which gives him a better understanding of Lennie as a person. Slim may have realised that Lennie is stronger than he seems but kept this to himself because he is respected meaning that he has to respect others around him and not 'spread rumours', etc. Steinbeck also introduces Slim and Curley's wife's 'friendship' as quite flirtatious - could this be because Slim is more powerful than Curley? (Slim is described as "tall" and Curley is described as "small", opposites). To add to this, Slim was said to have been "giving her the eye" which means that there could be a secret relationship between the two or that they could be hiding something.
I feel that what the two could be hiding is the fact that Slim had set Curley's wife up into going into the bunkhouse to visit Lennie and the men because Slim knew that Lennie was weak-minded enough to follow her around whilst he is alone. Curley's wife takes Lennie into the barn which could have been what envious Slim wanted all along - for Lennie to kill Curley's wife, so that he could have George to himself. When Lennie is killed, I get a sense that Slim was jealous of George's relationship with Lennie and how they looked after each other, emphasis on how Slim, George and the guys on the ranch went out for a few nights without Lennie. Slim was slowly but surely taking George away from Lennie with a cunning plan that left Lennie for dead. All of the men were curious about George and Lennie's relationship, but not as much as Slim; he may have been considered the most popular and the "prince of the ranch", but in other ways he was lonely and all he wanted was a real companion.
This is also somewhat supported when Lennie finds and is gifted animals as a treat to make him feel like he's got a friend until he kills it. This could mean that Lennie is looking for a particular companionship (identical to George's), meaning that anything that gets in his way will be destroyed, for example, the mouse and the pup that Slim gives Lennie. Slim may have given Lennie this pup to give him the comfort Lennie has been asking for throughout the novella up until this point, little did Slim realise that having the pup was only a temporary comfort and it would not make Lennie leave George's side. Lennie is loyal, almost like a pet - Steinbeck continuously uses an animal theme to describe Lennie throughout the novella and Lennie being loyal may be why.

^I've just written this and I feel that I may be thinking a little too outside of the box.. but it's definitely a view that you could take into consideration.

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