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Were the underclass created by capitalism?

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Original post by Thomb
Some inane genetics I suppose.


And what does this have to do with capitalism?
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Original post by Jebedee
How do you think that will work out in a globalised economy? All the capable people emigrate to countries willing to reward them for their efforts, all the incapable people stay.

I don't see your criminal situation improving much.


I don't see it panning out like that myself. The left wing is dead. Criminals rule the waves from now on.
Yes, capitalism is the sole cause of criminality. It is well-known that in the Soviet Union no-one ever did anything bad and there was always enough food to eat and everything was always happy and magical.
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Original post by Vikingninja
And what does this have to do with capitalism?


Genes are selfish and so is capitalism.
Original post by Thomb
I don't see it panning out like that myself. The left wing is dead. Criminals rule the waves from now on.


You must be joking. There is a rise in nationalism but the left wing is strong as ever.

I suggest you have a chat with some pre-millennials from the balkan states and have them explain how wonderful communism is.
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Original post by Jebedee
You must be joking. There is a rise in nationalism but the left wing is strong as ever.

I suggest you have a chat with some pre-millennials from the balkan states and have them explain how wonderful communism is.


Q. are you referring to the criminal underclass?
Original post by sweeneyrod
Yes, capitalism is the sole cause of criminality. It is well-known that in the Soviet Union no-one ever did anything bad and there was always enough food to eat and everything was always happy and magical.


no one did anything bad because you would be taken by the NKVD. and probably sent to the gulag. people were mostly too scared to commit a crime.

and no there wasn't always enough food to eat. look at the 1930s Holodomor.

capitalism is flawed, but Stalinist 'communism' was especially flawed- if anything it was a dictatorship. the soviet union was, quite frankly, ****.
Original post by Thomb
Q. are you referring to the criminal underclass?


Not in that particular post no.

I don't understand your logic. I assume by criminal underclass you mean welfare sponge criminals/chavs?
As welfare is a socialist system, I don't see how you think you'll fix this by bringing more of the same socialism.
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Original post by Jebedee
Not in that particular post no.

I don't understand your logic. I assume by criminal underclass you mean welfare sponge criminals/chavs?
As welfare is a socialist system, I don't see how you think you'll fix this by bringing more of the same socialism.


No their poverty is nothing to do with it. I hate their personality. I hate the criminal underclass and I think they are right wing. They're not lovable rogues they are scum.
Original post by copperlin
no one did anything bad because you would be taken by the NKVD. and probably sent to the gulag. people were mostly too scared to commit a crime.

and no there wasn't always enough food to eat. look at the 1930s Holodomor.

capitalism is flawed, but Stalinist 'communism' was especially flawed- if anything it was a dictatorship. the soviet union was, quite frankly, ****.


He was being sarcastic.
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He was being sarcastic.


my bad
Original post by Thomb
No their poverty is nothing to do with it. I hate their personality. I hate the criminal underclass and I think they are right wing. They're not lovable rogues they are scum.


They are often perceived as right wing so lets install the complete opposite system just to spite them? You'll find that some may have right wing beliefs but they are a product of left wing policies like the welfare state and the destruction of the nuclear family.
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Original post by Jebedee
They are often perceived as right wing so lets install the complete opposite system just to spite them? You'll find that some may have right wing beliefs but they are a product of left wing policies like the welfare state and the destruction of the nuclear family.


And remember they don't go to school so education is the big problem.
Original post by Jebedee
Greed is good.


Nope
African countries suffer the consequences of greedy leaders everyday
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Original post by copperlin
no one did anything bad because you would be taken by the NKVD. and probably sent to the gulag. people were mostly too scared to commit a crime.

and no there wasn't always enough food to eat. look at the 1930s Holodomor.

capitalism is flawed, but Stalinist 'communism' was especially flawed- if anything it was a dictatorship. the soviet union was, quite frankly, ****.


Yes but no. Anything has to be better than the criminal underclass.
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Original post by The_Opinion
He was being sarcastic.


No I wasn't. Russia has always been autocratic. Communism would be different in England.
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Nope
African countries suffer the consequences of greedy leaders everyday


I'm talking about capitalist greed, not criminal greed.

Original post by Thomb
And remember they don't go to school so education is the big problem.


A true right wing government would halt all child support for families that allow truancy.
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Original post by Jebedee
I'm talking about capitalist greed, not criminal greed.



A true right wing government would halt all child support for families that allow truancy.


It won't work. I wish it had happened then I never would have met them.
Original post by Thomb
It won't work. I wish it had happened then I never would have met them.


I'm sensing there is a story behind this.
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I'm sensing there is a story behind this.


Story is I can't shake the criminal underclass.

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