Do you support gay marriage?

That's absolutely not what I said. I simply stated that they have the ability to not engage in sexual activities if they were to be facing criminal charges whereas people of colour don't have the same ability.

No I am completely against gay marriage! It is not normal for a start. I don't really have much against gay people themselves but why allow something like gay marriage ruin traditional values and traditional wedding values

Tradition =/= Right

It was also once traditional to throw people in prison for being gay, or once traditional to keep slaves, just because something is traditional, doesn't make it right, especially if that tradition negatively affects people.

I just don't buy that any teens or young adults of this century acthally care. It's just an accessible argument. Oh what, you mean like you get to know those you would forbid from being happy and inlove? Lmfao.

They have that ability, yes, but is it not also arguable that sexuality is one of the most instinctual things to a human being? The drive to reproduce exists even where reproduction can't happen, as with gay people - they can suppress it, but they shouldn't have to.

Like I said, it's a known fallacy, the appeal to tradition.

Yeah, of course it is. To reproduce via a man and a woman. It's hardly a desire to "reproduce" if reproduction is physically impossible in every way, it's more so a desire for sex (not that, that's a bad thing but it stems from a place of pleasure rather than producing offspring). & I didn't say that they should repress anything I'm just saying that they can, which you agree with, so I rest my case.

I've yet to come across a logical and valid reason why not. Assuming no religious institutions are forced to perform ceremonies (which in itself is still a grey area as the institution itself doesn't have the right to religious freedom, just the people that work there - so maybe individual priests etc.) then I haven't yet encountered a logically valid reason why not.

Well at the end of the day, marriage is a religious institution , whether we like it or not and was founded upon very clear rules, it's easily argued that the age old definition of marriage is one that simply doesn't include two people of the same sex. Therefore gay marriage isn't real marriage and why nobody ever opposes civil partnerships because that is more suited.

Not that this is necessarily my view but this would be the view I could understand.

That's absolutely not what I said. I simply stated that they have the ability to not engage in sexual activities if they were to be facing criminal charges whereas people of colour don't have the same ability.

Edit :: You're clearly also quite an unintelligent person seeing as to how you managed to infer that I was saying gay people shouldn't have sex when I clearly stated "they can refrain" & either way in the older days heterosexual men and women had to remain chaste in order to avoid discrimination and celibacy was something that was expected so don't make it sound as if it would be impossible for gays to be chase.

Men slept around regardless of those standards.

The history of suffering isn't and gays can refrain from gay activity, blacks can't refrain from being black.

Anyway not gonna engage with you. My mother taught me from a very young age "you can't argue with stupid". Bye.

It is not the right of the government to tell the Church how to practice its religion.

The state should not be involved in marriage at all - it is a religious ceremony.