Would Germany go bust if the UK pulled out of the EU?

It may and it may not. Anything that one side does will result in retaliation by the other side. It depends what deal they negotiate.

Your second point is stating the obvious? The impact will mean there will eb a further level of uncertainty and cost to condycting business.

If the US can't negotiate a tariff free trade agreement, it seems unlikely Britain could.

I think some Leavers are under the impression that after Brexit, nothing will change except we all become free people with a lot more money. That is wishful thinking

So you believe Germany would not go bust but it will be severely damaged by new regulations (the UK is Germanys biggest trade partner and of course biggest export market).

What number of Germanys do you think will end up being unemployed by us leaving?

They arent the same though. I assume the UK will be looking more towards a deal along the line of the Swiss, but one that takes theur unique situation into account.

The money not being sent to fund the EU seems to have been respent in several ways already. I hope it doesnt go on bureacracy and tariffs.

The Euro is basically a big hoover that sucks wealth out of low productivity regions and gives it to high productivity ones, simply through the force of the exchange rate.

Germany LOVES the EU because it has allowed it to have a currency 25-30% lower than what the Deutschmark would be if Germany was out of it. Countries like Spain, Greece and Germany have a currency that is 30-40% higher than it should be. Poor EU countries subsidise Vampire Germany to the tune of hundreds of billions of Euros every year through this mechanism.

There are other recipients, of course. France loses out a little through this mechanism but is compensated through the CAP. The Netherlands benefits tremendously, and so do other Northern countries with high productivity.

No wonder the Germans are so desperate for a federal Europe to permanently join countries to them, for them to suck drya. It will the sponge they squeeze others blood out of to feast on.

I don't think Leavers will want a Swiss type trade deal if they win. The Swiss deal has to allow free movement of EU citizens although the Swiss wants to change that but the EU is not happy with it and has imposed some nonimal sanctions until its sorted.

The Swiss also has to pay to access the Single Market so the money saved from not being in the EU will have to be spent to access the Single Market.

The plus side for poorer EU countries that have the Euro is they can borrow easier and cheaper because its backed by Germany and France.

Trade would continue, only with a bit less regulations

I believe even with more regulations.

In theory it's true. Greek bond rates were only half a percentage points higher than German or French ones before the crisis, and now they are over 7% higher, necessitating the selloff of their country and total bankruptcy. Because they're stuck in the Euro, they can't devalue, and get to get lectures by Vampire Germans who they've indirectly subsidised since they adopted the Euro

This is a lie. The UK is neither Germany's biggest trade partner nor its biggest export market.

Germany's biggest trade partner is the United States (in terms of turnover) and its biggest export market is also the United States (in terms of euros). Full data tables, again, available here.

How many Germans would go unemployed? It's difficult to say. It depends on what 'Brexit' is - and because the 'Leave' campaign has different views on this, we don't know. See my posts above for full considerations though: it could range from, say, 10,000 Germans to 500,000 Germans (I have no economic qualifications - these are phoney numbers based on predictions for the UK). The German economy is much better adapted to change exporter away from the UK than the UK's economy is adapted to change exporter away from Germany.

Well at least you are on the right page about this. My understanding is that free movement of people is non negotiable if the country wants access to the single market. If the UK doesnt wnat that, then they will have to settle for a lot less. They never acknowledge this point. Perhaps they will get soemthing like a favoured nation status.

Precisely. The same people who keep banging on about an Aussie style points system also keep referring to Switzerland and Norway as examples to follow, two countries that are signed up to free movement as part of the single market.

Meanie - you're talking about another topic
Meanie meanie meanie

Precisely. The same people who keep banging on about an Aussie style points system also keep referring to Switzerland and Norway as examples to follow, two countries that are signed up to free movement as part of the single market.

If it is a lie take it up with the DAILY TELEGRAPH (source)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/9816643/Britain-becomes-Germanys-biggest-trade-partner-as-Berlin-London-pact-deepens.html

Why on earth people up ticked you and not me.
That seems so mean.

I did not call you a liar.

PEople are so fickle.

Im not sure either way, but I do dislike it when people misrepresent the facts or refuse to face up to the natural consequences. That's why on this and other subjects these forums are depressing. We already have a points system, but if we impose it on the EU (fair enough) the natural consequences will be they impose it the other way and as has been stated access to the single market will be off the table. That does not mean there will be no access to the EU, just the advantageous format we currently enjoy. I dont mind if people think that's ok, but they should face up to it instead of thinking they are going to get even better terms. So we agree.