WHITE MAN BAN Straight white able bodied men banned from attending top equality confe

I'll agree then that it has been misrepresented in the sense that it's not a ban from the whole conference. However it's still discriminatory to ban them from attending the groups, even if they wouldn't be interested in attending. The solution to there not being enough representation from the minority groups isn't banning the other people.

And people who aren't minorities wont have a unique perspective of their own? That point doesn't make any sense.

I'm torn between whether it really is racist or not, but what puts me over the edge into saying it is, is that were it a discussion group banning people who aren't white males I think it would have a large negative reaction from many who would agree with this.

If that's the case then I don't see why straight white men would even turn up in the first place. It's completely unnecessary to ban them.

Someone who isn't autistic wouldn't turn up to an autism group. Why would you need to ban them?

Look, I get what you're saying. The irony of an EQUALITY conference banning certain people because they don't fit the requirements isn't lost on me. But at the same time - there WILL be opportunities for white/straight/able-bodied men to make their views known - just not EVERY opportunity. And honestly, have you never been in a situation where you want to contribute but there are a couple of people who dominate the discussion? This is an attempt to eradicate that. It's also to ensure that people can discuss things without fear of unnecessarily insulting someone. I mean if you're a black lesbian upset because your white male colleague has been promoted over you when you were both suitable for the position, would you want your (possibly lovely, friendly, worthy) colleague to have to hear about how you're worried you didn't get the job because of your race/gender/orientation? And then possibly open up a situation where the colleague feels defensive about his promotion etc etc etc.

Do men really need to have their voice heard in absolutely every conceivable platform?

In a way yes they do, because there is no reason to exclude them. If they want to hear the experiences of minorities more, then just pick them to speak. Its not hard, and it doesn't mean excluding people who may be interested in hearing the discussion or even offering their own view.

There is a reason to exclude them though... being involved there is just being nosy! It's like a non-alcoholic turning up to an AA meaning. You might not want to do any harm, you might be genuinely interested in their stories, you might even have friends/family who are alcoholics, and hearing the other side will help you understand them better. All noble reasons! But not your place. Not only that, but white men are usually a lot more confident in their opinions, and can voice them much more easily - which can be intimidating for other people involved in the discussion. It's just being considerate. Banning them might seem like a step too far, or even pointless (like would white men even want to be involved and be outspoken when it wasn't required?!), but I'm going to assume that there's been a reason for the ban, i.e. gatecrashing in the past or something.

The being nosy argument doesn't make any sense. Someone else feeling uncomfortable because you're confident shouldn't be and is not your problem to deal with.

The being nosy argument doesn't make any sense. Someone else feeling uncomfortable because you're confident shouldn't be and is not your problem to deal with.

Right. So in a discussion group for disabled people, we should prioritise the feelings of non disabled people over the feelings of disabled people. Who cares if disabled people end up not benefitting much from the discussion group, that's their own fault.

What a ridiculous sense of entitlement you have there.

Because racism is prejudice + power

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STRAIGHT white men have been banned from attending a top university lecturers’ union conference on EQUALITY.

The University and College Union (UCU) says it will only allow members who identify themselves as gay, disabled, female or of an ethnic minority to attend their yearly equality gathering.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1248386/straight-white-able-bodied-men-banned-from-attending-top-equality-conference/

Because racism is prejudice + power

Racism against white people is not a thing. You can be prejudiced to white people, you can't be racist. Racism is based on systematic oppression and power structures that suggest that there is a race that is superior to others. White people have the power in society and do not experience oppression on the basis of their race, therefore it's not racism.

I do think it doesn't make sense to not allow straight, white, able-bodied men at all though; maybe they should have just had a maximum number or something.

But it's funny how if this was reversed and it was another all-white-guys conference and a minority group complained about it, they'd say people were overreacting and it wasn't a big deal.

Even if you could be racist to whites in a white majority country, the fact is there is nothing stopping whites from identifying as gay, disabled or female. As long as you don't identify as straight white male, you are allowed to enter.

Even if you could be racist to whites in a white majority country, the fact is there is nothing stopping whites from identifying as gay, disabled or female. As long as you don't identify as straight white male, you are allowed to enter.

"Racism cant happen to white people" What a insane and stupid view, Racism can happen to anyone No matter what race you are. It is views like this that create problems.
"Racism is based on systematic oppression and power structures that suggest that there is a race that is superior to others. White people have the power in society and do not experience oppression on the basis of their race, therefore it's not racism. "
Nope not true, Not the real definition Might want to read the actual definition. White people do not have all the power there are many black and non white people in positions of power all across the world. What about in Zimbabwe where white farmers were turfed out due to them being white and Zimbabwe is for the blacks and not white people. Is that racism yes it is.

Living in one of the 'most tolerant' countries doesn't mean oppression doesn't still exist in a systematic sense. Women do not have equal pay, the majority of the higher ups in this country are white men, although it's under the radar and hard to prove, there's still high chances of people of colour losing out on jobs due to their race. Things are improving, I know that, but it's not fully gone at all.

Maybe people aren't actively saying 'these groups of people are bad', but saying that there is no oppression and that everyone is treated equally in terms of 'the system' would be ignorant.

It confuses the subject to bring up Zimbabwe because you're simply confirming the misconception that racism only occurs where one group has power over the other. Racism can happen to white people in a white majority country. Racism can happen to black people in a black majority country.

It has nothing to do with "systematic oppression"; this is a ******** definition (as you did, in fairness, point out) made up by SJWs so they can claim black people can't be racist and women can't be sexist. Racism is being prejudiced against another race from the belief they are different or inferior