Why Can't We Have a Cromwell Day?

Because not only was Cromwell a traitor

If we leave the economy is ****ed do you realise that. Especially people working in London in business and related fields. Basically staying would be better for the economy in my opinion.

If we leave the economy is ****ed do you realise that. Especially people working in London in business and related fields. Basically staying would be better for the economy in my opinion.

Because not only was Cromwell a traitor

Please explain?

Also ye you "could" say he layed the foundations for democracy. However, I would argue that the Magna Carta had a much bigger impact.

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I can think of many reasons why we shouldn't have a Cromwell day but that is the stupidest reason.

Wrong side of history and all that. Queen can bite my shiny metal ass.

We're a country, not a business, the economy won't have a huge effect on you, economists agree that the economic downturn is short term and we'll do better in the long run etc etc

But really, is that all it is to you? Money? Would you kill a man if I offered you enough money?

We're a country, not a business, the economy won't have a huge effect on you, economists agree that the economic downturn is short term and we'll do better in the long run etc etc

But really, is that all it is to you? Money? Would you kill a man if I offered you enough money?

One of the foundations would be a more correct assesment. If you look at the next 2 centuries we became a constitutional monarchy with the Monarch largely fulfilling a ceremonial role while the French monarchy got marched to the guillotene. The formation of the New Model Army as a large professional force was also a drastic change from the ad hoc armies that were relied on before.

Apart from the fact that Cromwell ruled like a dictator (Lord Protectorate was his actual title), his takeover was the first step towards a constitutional monarchy and challenging the view of divine right.

The fact I find hypocritical is that his son was 'next in line' to take his place. Screams heredity right/monarchy but without the title.

Most of his efforts went in vain since the Cavalier Parliament came in and reversed pretty much most things militarily and politically when Charles II came to power and you've the parliament of William III to thank since they were the ones who introduced the Bill of Rights in the 1700s.

So no, I don't think Cromwell should deserve a day.

Please explain?

Also ye you "could" say he layed the foundations for democracy. However, I would argue that the Magna Carta had a much bigger impact. The fact that he was very hypercritical by becoming dictator shows this.

The Magna Carta, although quite democratic, meant very little to monarch's like Charles.

“No free man shall be seized, imprisoned, dispossessed, outlawed, exiled or ruined in any way, nor in any way proceeded against, except by the lawful judgement of his peers and the law of the land. "

Charles I imprisons a lot of people during his 11 year tyranny and a few years before that despite the protest of parliament. You've got the 5 knights case for their refusal to pay taxes (note that during the 1600s, parliament was against the idea of Charles imposing heavy taxes to get himself out of debt despite much of the population despising it.)

“To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny or delay right or justice.”

Charles I used prerogative courts to imprison people. These courts ruled in the king's favour and he often appointed these judges. The normal courts and prerogative courts were separate


During this period of time (since we're talking about Cromwell), the Magna Carta was pretty much useless but when it was first introduced, I'm sure it would have had a big impact (I'm not an expert on this so who knows).

The Magna Carta, although quite democratic, meant very little to monarch's like Charles.

“No free man shall be seized, imprisoned, dispossessed, outlawed, exiled or ruined in any way, nor in any way proceeded against, except by the lawful judgement of his peers and the law of the land. "

Charles I imprisons a lot of people during his 11 year tyranny and a few years before that despite the protest of parliament. You've got the 5 knights case for their refusal to pay taxes (note that during the 1600s, parliament was against the idea of Charles imposing heavy taxes to get himself out of debt despite much of the population despising it.)

“To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny or delay right or justice.”

Charles I used prerogative courts to imprison people. These courts ruled in the king's favour and he often appointed these judges. The normal courts and prerogative courts were separate


During this period of time (since we're talking about Cromwell), the Magna Carta was pretty much useless but when it was first introduced, I'm sure it would have had a big impact (I'm not an expert on this so who knows).

It interesting comparing the two as the Magna Carta was also abolished almost immediately but had a long lasting symbolic impact.

Why can't we have a Cromwell Day taking place on 3rd September, the day of that great man Oliver Cromwell's death, and the anniversary of his God-given victories over the barbarous Scottish Presbyterian pigs at Dunbar and over the royalist heathens at Worcester? It would at least give us a day to celebrate one of our national heroes, something the leftists want to stop us doing.

Alternatively, it could be placed on 25th April, two days after St George's Day, the day of his birth, but for fear that they might clash, 3rd September is probably the safer course.

Forgot to add that in my previous post

Also it seemed like Cromewell wanted a roman empire system lol

Yeah in hindsight it's very much a debate over who was the least tyrannical.

I'm ambivalent to the idea of a Cromwell day, never really thought about it tbh

Ye, makes for a very interesting discussion though

I am against a Cromwell day really, like others have said there are far more worthy people who have earned that right. What about a duke wellington day? or a British empire day? or king henry viii wife chopping day? :P