NHS - how will it cope with flood of old Brits coming back from Spain/France?

The first thing to ask: why would a significant number of ex pats come home?

Bit hey, what stops them doing that anyway, and why would all the foreign NHS workers suddenly disappear?

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a) If currency fluctuations are too big for pension to cope with (eg poverty).
b) Might no longer be able to get free medical help in spain or france
c) Just worried about future

Its an unknown.

Inherited rights

And I think if they managed to stay out there in 2008 when the GBP USD rate dropped from about 2 to 1.4 pretty rapidly they'll survive. I suggest you also take a look at normal currency fluctuations that can easily be 5-10% over a week or two

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There was reports of wide spread poverty in 2008 amongst the Brits abroad.
If this poverty was topped by the removal of Free hospitals then I think we would see a flood of people coming back.

The NHS Brexit spokeswoman left the Brexit camp over NHS stuff.

And get I cannot seem to find any indication of significant increases in people returning to Britain in the 2009 data, and you are kindly overlooking the whole inherited rights business, which includes keeping access to free use of hospitals.

Yeah...if you're dissatisfied with the way the campaign is going you change campaign, not sides. Probably more interested in getting back in Cameron's good books.

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Clearly you do not read the papers.
100 expats (oldies) leaving EU a day as worries increase:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513626/Every-day-100-British-expats-quit-Spain-uncertainty-June-s-EU-vote-triggers-exodus-Europe.html

Clearly you do not read the papers.
100 expats (oldies) leaving EU a day as worries increase:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3513626/Every-day-100-British-expats-quit-Spain-uncertainty-June-s-EU-vote-triggers-exodus-Europe.html

Oh no! 100 a day! So much more than the 100k a year from the EU!

The 36,500k a year are nearly all OLD people and thus will need the NHS far more than working age poles.
This is even before anything has happend!

This will be a drain on resources on an over stretched NHS .

Speaking as a non-Eu immigrant I can tell you it is ridiculously hard to move here; both my parents are surgeons and it took us 1.5 years to get the opportunity to move here.. This is mad in what world can it be easier for Britain to recruit construction workers than doctors... EU doctors get better pay in their respective member states, I would know; my parents applied all over the place. There is really no pull of doctors into Britain from the EU... Just scare mongering from the remain campaign

a) If currency fluctuations are too big for pension to cope with (eg poverty).
b) Might no longer be able to get free medical help in spain or france
c) Just worried about future

Its an unknown.

Yes and no. Doctors coming from countries with the same standard as in the UK tend to come from countries with similar pay. (Simply because you need to have had experience in a well equipped hospital.) There are doctors just working in the UK with their families still outside the UK and thus they are able to earn more. And even if you come from the EU, you still have to get all your diplomas accepted which takes around half a year and fulfill the usual NHS requirements (though good doctors anyway want allways to know more). So can't be done without planning either. Then for e.g. Spanish nurses, it is pretty common to work in the UK.

You misunderstand fundamentally...


The UK's NHS is an overly litigious employer for doctors, they are defiantly over worked; my parents have a 9-5 job, which ends up being an 5-9 job... I often don't see my parents for days on end.

They get paid peanuts for this compared to my uncle and aunt who have the same circumstances in Paris (while we are in London)... They get 35% higher pay despite having to work from 10-5, work in the public sector, get half the work load and research options that are simply not available here.

The only reason my parents didn't choose France or Germany where doctors are treated better, paid more and respected rather than litigated at every turn; is that they can't speak German or French.

The NHS is really nice for people using it; it's a terrible employer on the other hand... You are sorrily mistaken if you think EU doctors are attracted to come work here

What are the statistics for EU doctors leaving the UK... Bet the remain campaign don't tell you that!

I myself am going to UNI next year to study medicine, there isn't a chance in hell I will work for the NHS, I'd rather train in Australia, USA, Germany, Hungary, France basically anywhere that isn't here!

On the other point of immigration... The GMC (general medical council) took 1 week to equate my parents combined 4 MD's and SD's ; the issue where will the UK's immigration policy not to allow us a visa for over a year and a half,

Think of the people who died due to lack of surgeons while the people at the home office where twiddling their thumbs... On the justification that there is enough migrants; paving layers etc.

you are deluded if you think it is more important to open the doors to cheap labour but close the doors to extremely high skilled HEAVILY required doctors surgeons and nurses!