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Friend got Reported for sexual assault - what to do!?!

One of my friends at Medical School was contacted by the Police, asking him to attend the Police Station. If he comes alone, he will be detained for 12 hours, so he was advised to come with a lawyer.

3 years ago, he went home with this girl after a night out. Neither of them were particularly drunk, as me and other friends were there too at the club! They walked to her place and kissed and touched, but no sex happened. He had told me this the next day, 3 years ago,

Now, after 3 years, yesterday, the girl reported him for Sexual Assault! We are all shocked and worried what this means and what can happen, especially when he definitely didn't do anything wrong!

What would be the right thing to do here?

We contacted few lawyers and all of them talk around the lines of "this happened 3 years ago, there's no proof anyway, so it won't lead to anything. so when police ask anything, keep saying NO COMMENTS". We don't know what is the right thing to do. Are the lawyers lying? Or is that how it is?

If you or anyone who's been through this, please help us! I'm really worried about him!

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Reply 1
BUMP
There's nothing that you need to do. If your friend is innocent, then he has nothing to worry about. Your friend may or may not be telling the truth, but if he maintains his innocence then you should support him as a friend him until the court have ruled.
Original post by ahha
One of my friends at Medical School was contacted by the Police, asking him to attend the Police Station. If he comes alone, he will be detained for 12 hours, so he was advised to come with a lawyer.

3 years ago, he went home with this girl after a night out. Neither of them were particularly drunk, as me and other friends were there too at the club! They walked to her place and kissed and touched, but no sex happened. He had told me this the next day, 3 years ago,

Now, after 3 years, yesterday, the girl reported him for Sexual Assault! We are all shocked and worried what this means and what can happen, especially when he definitely didn't do anything wrong!

What would be the right thing to do here?

We contacted few lawyers and all of them talk around the lines of "this happened 3 years ago, there's no proof anyway, so it won't lead to anything. so when police ask anything, keep saying NO COMMENTS". We don't know what is the right thing to do. Are the lawyers lying? Or is that how it is?

If you or anyone who's been through this, please help us! I'm really worried about him!

Like c'mon why tf are there still stupid cases of, oh he sexually assaulted me 3 years ago thus it's sill relevant in modern today society? Yes i admit people will say well maybe she was too scared to tell anyone and i'll say in response to that grow some BALLS you can't live your whole life like that. I think it's just silly, they should've said earlier, since 3 years is a very ****ing long time to wait to speak out, in any case most rape cases have men at a disadvantage due to the general view of most men in society, dam ppl don't know how to think for themselves and assume less about the person until you have listened to them and understood them better.

I agree with you there buddy, if there's no proof then it's difficult to put your good friend in jail. Word of mouth is very subjective and most likely they could say something worse than what actually happened to to put your friend in deeper ****. Assuming that only kissing and touching and no sex was true then it comes down to consent, of course the girl will most likely say no she didn't consent so the big question at the time is why didn't she stop him? she could've said something or even pushed him away? Your buddy there wasn't told anything so i assume they carried on and no indication was given whether she wanted to carry on or not, so not really your buddy's fault, if she didn't want it in the first place why get with your friend lol.
Reply 4
nothing will happen, it will be thrown as due to lack of evidence and his word against hers
Original post by ahha
One of my friends at Medical School was contacted by the Police, asking him to attend the Police Station. If he comes alone, he will be detained for 12 hours, so he was advised to come with a lawyer.

3 years ago, he went home with this girl after a night out. Neither of them were particularly drunk, as me and other friends were there too at the club! They walked to her place and kissed and touched, but no sex happened. He had told me this the next day, 3 years ago,

Now, after 3 years, yesterday, the girl reported him for Sexual Assault! We are all shocked and worried what this means and what can happen, especially when he definitely didn't do anything wrong!

What would be the right thing to do here?

We contacted few lawyers and all of them talk around the lines of "this happened 3 years ago, there's no proof anyway, so it won't lead to anything. so when police ask anything, keep saying NO COMMENTS". We don't know what is the right thing to do. Are the lawyers lying? Or is that how it is?

If you or anyone who's been through this, please help us! I'm really worried about him!


Get a solicitor. You do not know the evidence.
Why would the lawyers lie and why would someone on an anonymous forum and sitting their GCSE's know better?
Reply 6
Original post by 999tigger
Get a solicitor. You do not know the evidence.
Why would the lawyers lie and why would someone on an anonymous forum and sitting their GCSE's know better?


because lawyers lie to defend their clients!?
if a lawyer can defend a child molesterer or murderer etc then there capable of lying
Original post by Big white
Like c'mon why tf are there still stupid cases of, oh he sexually assaulted me 3 years ago thus it's sill relevant in modern today society? Yes i admit people will say well maybe she was too scared to tell anyone and i'll say in response to that grow some BALLS you can't live your whole life like that. I think it's just silly, they should've said earlier, since 3 years is a very ****ing long time to wait to speak out, in any case most rape cases have men at a disadvantage due to the general view of most men in society, dam ppl don't know how to think for themselves and assume less about the person until you have listened to them and understood them better.

I agree with you there buddy, if there's no proof then it's difficult to put your good friend in jail. Word of mouth is very subjective and most likely they could say something worse than what actually happened to to put your friend in deeper ****. Assuming that only kissing and touching and no sex was true then it comes down to consent, of course the girl will most likely say no she didn't consent so the big question at the time is why didn't she stop him? she could've said something or even pushed him away? Your buddy there wasn't told anything so i assume they carried on and no indication was given whether she wanted to carry on or not, so not really your buddy's fault, if she didn't want it in the first place why get with your friend lol.


What a load of vile nonsense. Telling a victim of sexual assault to grow some balls? Seriously? Statistics suggest that up to 80% of victims to not report their attack, because of deep shame, because they feel violated and inhuman, because they know they probably won't be believed. The incidences of PTSD, eating disorders, depression and suicide are up to three times higher in those who have been sexually assaulted, it absolutely breaks the victim down and strips them of all their self worth. When they finally gain the courage to report their attack, they should not automatically be disbelieved.

Neither you or the OP have any evidence that the victim didn't resist and that they gave consent, that is for the court to try to figure out. And as for asking why she didn't push him away, how easy do you think it is for a woman to physically push away a man who often weighs twice her amount?
Original post by shawtyb
because lawyers lie to defend their clients!?
if a lawyer can defend a child molesterer or murderer etc then there capable of lying


You watch too much fantasy TV.
Ofc a lawter will agree to defend someone acccused of commiting a crime, thats the whole point of innocent till proven guilty. You misunderstand the role of lawyers and their place in the legal system.
Original post by shawtyb
because lawyers lie to defend their clients!?
if a lawyer can defend a child molesterer or murderer etc then there capable of lying


Lawyers are legally obliged to stop defending their client if they admit guilt. If they are found to still be defending them, they will be struck off. Sure it happens, but it is unlikely.
Original post by 999tigger
You watch too much fantasy TV.
Ofc a lawter will agree to defend someone acccused of commiting a crime, thats the whole point of innocent till proven guilty. You misunderstand the role of lawyers and their place in the legal system.


i like fantasy tv :frown: leave me alone :frown:
Original post by simbasdragon
Lawyers are legally obliged to stop defending their client if they admit guilt. If they are found to still be defending them, they will be struck off. Sure it happens, but it is unlikely.


No they arent, but there are rules of professional conduct and their primary duty is to the court and not to mislead it.

This idea of the lawyers telling lies to the OP is fanciful, but not the same as having a different opinion.
Reply 12
Well, I think that if your friend keeps denying it, it will never go to court, because there is no evidence for a prosecution.

I think your friend will only get into real trouble if there IS evidence he hasn't told you about, or if other girls, independently, i.e. not knowing of the first one or each other, also accuse him.

I think teenage boys tend to push their luck (as they see it), thinking they'll never get laid if they don't exert a bit of pressure, and sometimes simply not realising what may be interpreted as sexual assault by girls. If that may be the case here, get him to a consent class.
Original post by simbasdragon
What a load of vile nonsense. Telling a victim of sexual assault to grow some balls? Seriously? Statistics suggest that up to 80% of victims to not report their attack, because of deep shame, because they feel violated and inhuman, because they know they probably won't be believed. The incidences of PTSD, eating disorders, depression and suicide are up to three times higher in those who have been sexually assaulted, it absolutely breaks the victim down and strips them of all their self worth. When they finally gain the courage to report their attack, they should not automatically be disbelieved.

Neither you or the OP have any evidence that the victim didn't resist and that they gave consent, that is for the court to try to figure out. And as for asking why she didn't push him away, how easy do you think it is for a woman to physically push away a man who often weighs twice her amount?

They're fools because look at the system and how the world is now. It's much more accepting of being slightly more biased towards women in rape cases and anything sexual like that. So i don;'t understand what the problem is. Most likely they'd win the case in these modern times unless the person knows they gave false bs. Also why tf would the victim feel shame ? Surely that'd be the attacker? Violated and inhuman? all the more reason to REPORT IT, something doesn't add up here, you say they feel all this and yet although they're in great distress and other stuff they still tell no-one..... who do they think they are? like someone with nerves and a mind of steel which can't get hurt or something? GET HELP THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.

That's because it's adding insult to injury.I understand that's bad and i'm not disagreeing here with you that x didn't happen or they shouldn't be listened to but that they should try and speak up earlier. That way it's easier to have evidence for their case.

Okay so when being sexually assaulted the person being assaulted and do 3 things
Take it and just do nothing
Actively try and push away the attacker or do something to indicate they don't want it(they don't have to just push them)
Accept it
We don't have evidence no but i'm trying to provide some food for thought as to what could happen depending on consent and questions to think about...
Original post by simbasdragon
What a load of vile nonsense. Telling a victim of sexual assault to grow some balls? Seriously? Statistics suggest that up to 80% of victims to not report their attack, because of deep shame, because they feel violated and inhuman, because they know they probably won't be believed. The incidences of PTSD, eating disorders, depression and suicide are up to three times higher in those who have been sexually assaulted, it absolutely breaks the victim down and strips them of all their self worth. When they finally gain the courage to report their attack, they should not automatically be disbelieved.

Neither you or the OP have any evidence that the victim didn't resist and that they gave consent, that is for the court to try to figure out. And as for asking why she didn't push him away, how easy do you think it is for a woman to physically push away a man who often weighs twice her amount?





up to 80% of victims to not report their attack
So then how did you get this statistic?
Original post by AperfectBalance
up to 80% of victims to not report their attack
So then how did you get this statistic?


This is research carried out by the university of Sussex: http://www.surrey.ac.uk/mediacentre/press/2009/16532_between_7090_rapes_thought_to_go_unreported_and_94_of_reported_cases_dont_end_in_a_conviction.htm
Evidence is gathered from the amout of confessions to rape charities and other councelling services, alongside surveying large amounts of people.

Others put it at 68% like https://rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
But according to this research 98% of rapists don't spend a day in jail.
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Original post by llys
Well, I think that if your friend keeps denying it, it will never go to court, because there is no evidence for a prosecution.

I think your friend will only get into real trouble if there IS evidence he hasn't told you about, or if other girls, independently, i.e. not knowing of the first one or each other, also accuse him.

I think teenage boys tend to push their luck (as they see it), thinking they'll never get laid if they don't exert a bit of pressure, and sometimes simply not realising what may be interpreted as sexual assault by girls. If that may be the case here, get him to a consent class.


Please do not try to justify or diminish sexual assault as boys just 'pushing their luck.' If they are guilty, they deserve jail, not 'a consent class.' Sexual assault is forcing sexual acts upon someone against their will, this is not difficult to understand.
Reply 17
Original post by simbasdragon
Please do not try to justify or diminish sexual assault as boys just 'pushing their luck.' If they are guilty, they deserve jail, not 'a consent class.' Sexual assault is forcing sexual acts upon someone against their will, this is not difficult to understand.


Oh come on. I'm not excusing sexual assault. I'm saying some teenage boys don't know what it is, especially if they have learned their social skills from other teenage boys or porn. That's not an excuse, just a reason that also has to be addressed.

The relevance here is that OP's friend may genuinely think he did not assault the girl (he may well think that it's only assault if he hit her, wrestled with her or tried to rape her), while at the same time she may genuinely feel that he did violate her.

In which case he won't get punished because there is no evidence, but he could still do with a consent class.
(edited 7 years ago)
Original post by Big white
They're fools because look at the system and how the world is now. It's much more accepting of being slightly more biased towards women in rape cases and anything sexual like that. So i don;'t understand what the problem is. Most likely they'd win the case in these modern times unless the person knows they gave false bs. Also why tf would the victim feel shame ? Surely that'd be the attacker? Violated and inhuman? all the more reason to REPORT IT, something doesn't add up here, you say they feel all this and yet although they're in great distress and other stuff they still tell no-one..... who do they think they are? like someone with nerves and a mind of steel which can't get hurt or something? GET HELP THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.

That's because it's adding insult to injury.I understand that's bad and i'm not disagreeing here with you that x didn't happen or they shouldn't be listened to but that they should try and speak up earlier. That way it's easier to have evidence for their case.

Okay so when being sexually assaulted the person being assaulted and do 3 things
Take it and just do nothing
Actively try and push away the attacker or do something to indicate they don't want it(they don't have to just push them)
Accept it
We don't have evidence no but i'm trying to provide some food for thought as to what could happen depending on consent and questions to think about...


This is victim blaming at its finest. Of course victims of sexual assault should report it earlier, but unfortunately it is not as easy that. It often takes years to process this utter violation, and many resort to blaming themselves and having self loathing. Not telling anyone does not mean they have balls of steel, they don't tell anyone because often they are plunged into severe mental illness and depression.

The vast majority of rape accusations don't even make it to court, and of those that do, only a miniscule amount end in prosecution. With statistics as they are, is it any wonder that rape victims feel that they won't be believed?

How do you know that they don't try to push the attacker off? How can they do that if they are heavily intoxicated so they can barely move, or they have been drugged, or they are paralysed by fear?

I really reccommend that you read the testimomy of Brock Turner's victim.
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Original post by simbasdragon
This is victim blaming at its finest. Of course victims of sexual assault should report it earlier, but unfortunately it is not as easy that. It often takes years to process this utter violation, and many resort to blaming themselves and having self loathing. Not telling anyone does not mean they have balls of steel, they don't tell anyone because often they are plunged into severe mental illness and depression.

The vast majority of rape accusations don't even make it to court, and of those that do, only a miniscule amount end in prosecution. With statistics as they are, is it any wonder that rape victims feel that they won't be believed?

How do you know that they don't try to push the attacker off? How can they do that if they are heavily intoxicated so they can barely move, or they have been drugged, or they are paralysed by fear?

I really reccommend that you read the testimomy of Brock Turner's victim.


That's not logical to me.... anyway if that happens there's never a true solution that'll bring the correct amount of justice.

Well it's hard to find the truth in rape cases so maybe there could be a solution that depends on women protecting themselves better at all times?

Well there's always that possibility so i guess we need to look further into detail of what could happen.

ok I'll read it

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