So gay people are now being targeted by Islamic extremists in their own countries?

Original post by OGGUS

You need to find a solution rather than just kill them... As A Muslim this is what needs to be done.

Indeed.
And the solution is... do nothing. Sexuality is not something that needs "resolving". It only requires acceptance.

And if you can't find a "solution", is "killing them" ok then?

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Trapz99

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Original post by QE2

To which god?

To Jesus Christ, our Lord.

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KloppOClock

Original post by epage

Source?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/florida-gay-nightclub-shooting-injuries-reported-at-pulse-orland/

its everywhere

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Original post by OGGUS

Okay sorry man. But I'm trying to be neutral about the situation.

Why? Are you naturally inclined to a more extreme view?

Reply 166

Josb

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Donald J. Trump
‏@realDonaldTrump
Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!

He surely knows to write stupid posts. :lol:

(edited 7 years ago)

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Original post by epage

Don't blame muslims, religion, or anything except homophobia.

No one is blaming "Muslims" (apart from the one who carried out this attack, obviously).
Religion should be blamed if it was religious indoctrination that led, even in part, to this attack.
The cause of the homophobia is as important as the bigotry itself. If it was religious dogma (which seems plausible), then we do blame the religion.

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Original post by interact

Funny that what is really a norm in the US, because of its gun laws is being used as an excuse for killing thousands of people and starting illegal wars

Funny that I know the meaning of all the words you used, but in the order that you used them, they make absolutely no sense.

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username2303857

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Original post by KloppOClock

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/florida-gay-nightclub-shooting-injuries-reported-at-pulse-orland/

its everywhere

If he did, that needs to be investigated. But the telegraph is the only news source that I have seen reporting that, which I am guessing came from this tweet which literally doesn't prove anything, and it has just been presumed as I haven't read or heard any witness accounts saying that

Reply 170

champ_mc99

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Original post by The Epicurean

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Quick question: Would you say your explanations in Islam being able to accept homosexuality is also in agreement with the classical tafseers including Ibn Kathir?

Reply 171

KloppOClock

Original post by epage

If he did, that needs to be investigated. But the telegraph is the only news source that I have seen reporting that, which I am guessing came from this tweet which literally doesn't prove anything, and it has just been presumed as I haven't read or heard any witness accounts saying that

i mean thats just the one i quoted, i could provide 50 more sources but I dont really want to waste my time doing that.

And there have been a few witness accounts who have claimed he was praying in arabic during the attack.

btfo

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username2303857

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Original post by KloppOClock

i mean thats just the one i quoted, i could provide 50 more sources but I dont really want to waste my time doing that.

And there have been a few witness accounts who have claimed he was praying in arabic during the attack.

btfo

I will look into it

Reply 173

Original post by epage

HE WASNT AN ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. He just happened to be muslim.

Hmm...
By definition, someone who believes in Islam is Islamic.
By definition, shooting 50 people is extreme.

However, it does remain to be seen if Islamic ideology had anything to do with his motivation to carry out this attack. We don't know yet, so to make categorical statements either way is premature.

Reply 174

KloppOClock

Original post by epage

I will look into it

i couldnt care less

Reply 175

Original post by Josb

Well, that's going to boost Donald Trump.

Don't give the tinfoil hatters ideas!

Reply 176

Stormz1

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Original post by Thutmose-III

I'm not worried. I grieve for their deaths but this changes nothing. We've clipped 30,000 of those f*ckers in airstrikes, and we'll kill another 1000 over the next week as government officials order retaliation for this crime.

I'm incredibly sad the West has suffered another attack, and as a gay guy of course makes me angry. But it doesn't change the basic calculus; we're going to keep steamrolling over these losers until they've lost all of their territory, then we'll hand them over to the Iraqis to be tortured and killed. No terrorist attack can stop that now.

Air striking isn't the best method as that kills innocent lives too. Its also important to remember that it's because of the west terrorism has increased in general (rise of Isis).

Reply 177

username1969391

So, a Muslim walked into a gay bar...

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