So gay people are now being targeted by Islamic extremists in their own countries?

Lol you believe in god?

No I don't.

I just said I'm doing God's work for cool points on the internet you moron.

Lol k

I am giving a sh*t about innocent lives being lost in all contexts, yet apparently I am being targeted for not feeling more hurt towards the loss of western lives

A sign of the day of Judgement is

- The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food. This will occur when the Muslims are large in nnumber, but "like the foam of the sea".

Are we not experiencing this today? Yes we are. It is only you that I fear for. Pray to Allah and inshallah he will give you the guidance and knowldege to see the peace unity of Islam.
I respect to for having your own opinion, but please don't let that dominate the exterior view and have an open mind to see my perspective. Thank you

I got insulted online , let me go cry in a corner.

Keep wasting your life posting drivel on a student forum for another 10 hours weeb.

That isn't an excuse, that's 'just the way we are', how belittling is it that the life of someone that lives closer in mileage to you is somehow more valued than the life of someone elsewhere?

No one is gathering against Muslims, stop acting like you're the victims when a muslim killed 50 innocent people. Just stop it.

The only people that segregate themselves from society today are muslims. They have a problem with integrating and adapting and accepting western culture.

I'm A Christian, I'm against homosexuality, but the last thing i'll ever do is murder people i disagree with thinking my God would reward me for taking out life I didn't create.

I'm A Christian, I'm against homosexuality, but the last thing i'll ever do is murder people i disagree with thinking my God would reward me for taking out life I didn't create.

Honestly you will never realise what it is like to be ostracised from the western for believing in a religion that so many people are against. Not only do i empathise with anyone that has to put up with constant hate and abuse but i feel their pain...unless you have experienced it you seriously won't know. By implying the western world is suffering from Islam is sad when there have been and still are so many attrocities against Muslims that are 'oh yes' unknown of.

I don't wish to continue this debate merely because I feel i have no liability to explain my belief to you so if you want to learn about the peacefulness actually speak to Muslims who are accepting of everyone.

I'll go with that he isn't familiar with the Qur'an.

Most westernised muslims can't tell the Qur'an from a phonebook

I'll give my final statement and It's up to you to reply or not.

Look, the west aren't against muslims. If they were western countries like Germany, Sweden and England wouldn't be willing to open their arms to islamic refugees and migrants, house them and feed them, sometimes at the expense of the local native European.

It's radicals that are against the west, the ones who can't adapt and tolerate western values. The ones that can integrate, these people need to be rooted out because most muslims in the west are peacefully living with the western values Europe and america promote, but the list of the ones that don't keeps rising day by day.

Very true. The standard version of Islam now promulgated in the west is highly sanitised and carefully cherry-picked. Fortunately, the full version is still available in all good bookshops/internet sources.

I wouldn't expect anything but ad-hominems from him. That's all he seems to have to offer, and he is too scared to even do it under his main account.

Either you are not familiar with the Quran, or you are being deliberately dishonest.

5:32 states that "if anyone kills a soul, other than as a punishment for murder or fasad, it is as if..."

Fasad ("mischief") covers a wide range of offences, but includes "disobeying/rejecting god's law".

The next verse (5:33), clearly states that the punishment for those 'waging war on Allah and his messenger', and for fasad, is death.

So we can see that the Quran explicitly permits the killing of people who have transgressed against Islamic law. So any hadith that calls for the death of prople transgressing Islamic law is not contradicting the Quran.

Hope this has helped.

Though it's more difficult to ostracise Islamists and their ideologies, ironically due to free speech. When Anjem and his guys preach "We want Sharia", they're not breaking any laws so it is pretty difficult to stop Islamist agendas from radicalising the youngsters. Not saying ban free speech but just pointing out how it does come with its disadvantages.

Regarding Maajid... I'm not really sure about how legitimate his foundation really is after Tommy Robinson came out and tried to expose him and whatnot, despite the fact I agree with his plans to tackle radicalisation.

You're going to be banned, but I do love you.

That's not the argument you were making, you were saying that you care more about the death of people in Western countries than those that live in 'stranger places'. By YOUR logic, the death of some random person in France and the death of some random person in Afghanistan are not of the same value.

MORONIC.

His like and other Combat 18-type scum bags have been rightly ostracised by our society. As a collective we did this because we recognise that these people are a cancer and the only way to beat cancer is to fight it. So basically the opposite to what Muslim communities as a whole have done with extremist Islamists. Quite frankly you're more likely to be a pariah among these communities by joining the British Army than you are associating yourself with ISIS or Al Shabab.

People like Maajid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation are more widely despised by mainstream "moderate" Muslims than people like Moazzam Begg and the poisonous creatures in CAGE. Think about that.............

Also, killing is banned in the Quran and there Muslims are taught to be tolerant to others no matter their differences so I don't think people who do these acts can be given the title of being 'Islamic' or 'Muslims' when their actions have nothing to do with Islam