How the left respond to the recent attack in Orlando now we know the perp was Muslim?

Perhaps it's time for Muslims to either start a new sect of their religion which denounces violence so that we can rule out the good from the bad, or even better, realise how galvanising Islam towards violence can be and do like I and my family did, leave it for good knowing that benevolent God could have come up with this tripe.
To be honest it feels unfair to attack Muslims for things they had absolutely no hand in, but if they don't separate themselves from this evil **** they will just be caught in whatever **** storm occurs in the future.

Remember that white neo mazi murdered church goers in a black church? That was all hushed down.

Let us remember those mourning black families in Charleston – attacked in their sanctuary this very week last year – who looked at Dylann Roof within hours of taking their kin and said “I forgive you” with no malice in their hearts. Let us remember the lack of vengeance they displayed, and how they immediately pivoted from a place of intense grief towards action for building a better world.

Let us remember that individuals who commit horrendous crimes in this country with absurd regularity have one thing in common: they have easy access to weapons of mass killing.

Let us remember that singer Christina Grimmie was also shot to death, also in Orlando, within a day of the tragedy of the Pulse nightclub - seemingly by a man whose race and religion will not be used to smear other members of his same race and religion.

Let us remember what transgender Americans have been subjected to over something as basic as bathroom use (which may have led to a bomb being set in a Target last week) and say we must stop the violence.

Let us remember that we have never really blamed all Christians, Republicans or Democrats (many who have organized en masse to subject queer people to systematic violence and destruction at different points in American history) for the violence waged against us. We should remember that again today. We should remember not to blame all members of any other religion or political ideology for what one person does.

Gay Americans are so creative. Our ancestors managed to turn a riot into a movement of love. They managed to turn the epidemic of Aids into one of the most powerful political forces the United States has ever produced. In this moment, let us not become nationalistic, or prejudiced, or vengeful. Let us not perpetuate the American cycle of violence. Let us interrupt this nightmare as the creative, loving, justice-seeking American queers that we are, who know well how to look death in the eye and still imagine a new, better living world.

Let us remember, in the spirit of Stonewall, and of the pride celebrations every June since, that this tragedy, devastating and heartbreaking and frightening as it is, could also be gay Americans’ moment to find the best in ourselves.

islamic extremism isn't going to disappear if half the country is constantly hateful towards Muslims

And Islamic inspired homophobia will never go away if we tolerate it

so what do we do?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/12/lets-not-give-in-to-fear-after-the-orlando-shooting-florida



Is this really the first opinion piece the Guardian rolls out?

It doesn't seek to address the cause of this tragedy and how we can never allow it to happen again, how homophobia is still an issue in certain pockets of society and what needs to be done on the ground to prevent it happening again; instead, it is trying to warn against a non-existent backlash against Muslims from gay people. I like most people know that not all Muslims are responsible for this tragedy, but is this really the first thing the Guardian thinks is the most important to convey - that gay people should be nice to Muslims when there is absolutely no indication of any backlash expected to occur from gay people?

The OP has been criticised in this thread, but this sort of opinion piece shows that there is a real issue with priorities within the left. It's not conveying a bad point - of course it isn't as gay people should not blame Muslims - but it is very strange that it is the first opinion piece the Guardian publishes and that it is warning against a situation that is unlikely to happen.

Edit: and here comes the next Guardian opinion piece with the same tone: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/12/orlando-shootings-guardian-editorial

OP waits everyday of his life to make threads of events like these, to support his personal agenda.

Exactly. The most important here is addressing the issue of Islamic extremism. Not fawning over Muslims. But trying to actually stop ****king terrorists attacks.

Hang on a second, this has absolutely nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

Remember when that white guy crashed that plane one time?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/12/lets-not-give-in-to-fear-after-the-orlando-shooting-florida



Is this really the first opinion piece the Guardian rolls out?

It doesn't seek to address the cause of this tragedy and how we can never allow it to happen again, how homophobia is still an issue in certain pockets of society and what needs to be done on the ground to prevent it happening again; instead, it is trying to warn against a non-existent backlash against Muslims from gay people. I like most people know that not all Muslims are responsible for this tragedy, but is this really the first thing the Guardian thinks is the most important to convey - that gay people should be nice to Muslims when there is absolutely no indication of any backlash expected to occur from gay people?

The OP has been criticised in this thread, but this sort of opinion piece shows that there is a real issue with priorities within the left. It's not conveying a bad point - of course it isn't as gay people should not blame Muslims - but it is very strange that it is the first opinion piece the Guardian publishes and that it is warning against a situation that is unlikely to happen.

Edit: and here comes the next Guardian opinion piece with the same tone: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/12/orlando-shootings-guardian-editorial

Hang on a second, this has absolutely nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

Remember when that white guy crashed that plane one time?

And Islamic inspired homophobia will never go away if we tolerate it

so what do we do?

100s of Muslims have donated blood to the injured LGBT community

https://www.facebook.com/mahmoud.elawadi.9?fref=photo

The christian right have passed down 200 anti-LGBT bills in the last 6months and the westboro baptist church endorse the shootings because "GodHatesFags" why do we tolerate them? All types of homophobia need to be addressed.

So?


Are we supposed to ignore everything thats happened over the last 1,400 years because 110 muslims donated blood to injured people?

You are completely right
Thing is though it's harder to stop Christians doing this and to be fair they have been over here longer (but doesn't mean we shouldn't stop the fight)

Islam has been imported in the last 40 odd years and it should never been allowed to get as bad as it is.

In that sense surely Britain and America should be hated because they are the biggest terrorists in the world right? and muslims have contributed more into the developing world than most other groups

http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/someone-asked-what-the-world-would-look-like-without-muslimsheres-the-brilliant-answer--ZyIekHvgg4b

You must be extremely deluded if you think Muslims actually invented Toothbrushes, hospitals, Algebra and more than half of those things in that link.