How the right allow terrorists to get hold of weapons.

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

GOP blocks bill to stop terrorists from buying guns

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-blocks-bill-stop-terrorists-buying-guns

The latest terrorist that killed all those LGBT people was known by the FBI. The government could astop him boaring a plane but could not stop him form buying a gun.

Sort your **** out right wingers.

lol, the problem was that he was suicidal in his want to murder homosexuals, stopping him from owning a gun wouldn't have stopped this from happening.

It's as if you're arguing the situation would be OK if he just drove through a crowd of people waiting in line to get into the bar, or if he had leveled the building with a suicide bomb or car bomb.

Idiot.

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Original post by ChaoticButterfly

GOP blocks bill to stop terrorists from buying guns

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-blocks-bill-stop-terrorists-buying-guns

The latest terrorist that killed all those LGBT people was known by the FBI. The government could astop him boaring a plane but could not stop him form buying a gun.

Sort your **** out right wingers.

Crazy eh. I do find it mindblowing how these guys can just purchase automatic assault rifles like they are playing GTAV

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PrincessBO$$

How is right for anyone to have a weapon?
More gun control laws should enforced.

Reply 4

BaconandSauce

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CAIR will be all over this

'guilty for being muslim' will be the term used

Reply 5

nexttimeigetvpn

Yeah America is a messed up country.

If you have no violent criminal history, terrorist connections or mental illness, there is nothing whatsoever from stopping you become one of the two former.

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Original post by HanSoloLuck

lol, the problem was that he was suicidal in his want to murder homosexuals, stopping him from owning a gun wouldn't have stopped this from happening.

It's as if you're arguing the situation would be OK if he just drove through a crowd of people waiting in line to get into the bar, or if he had leveled the building with a suicide bomb or car bomb.

Idiot.

So he cant buy a gun.. he decides to make a bomb. Sourcing the materials and knowledge to make this bomb are in your opinion as easy as purchasing one of the 3.3 Million assault rifles in circulation, of which are all legal to buy?

Soon as he types in bomb material or hydrogen peroxide, or goes to his local hardware store looking for fertiliser, inteligence services will have him on their radar. Oh this guys been on our radar twice, lets surveilance him

One might suggest the Boston bombers were very very very stupid to use a bomb instead of assault rifles given their casualties to this guys

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Reply 7

Reue

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

GOP blocks bill to stop terrorists from buying guns

Because making guns illegal certainly stopped both the Paris and Brussels attacks...

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hovado

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Original post by Betelgeuse-

Soon as he types in bomb material or hydrogen peroxide, or goes to his local hardware store looking for fertiliser, inteligence services will have him on their radar. Oh this guys been on our radar twice, lets surveilance him

Yet again the attacker was on the radar, too busy surveilling eveyone to keep a close eye on the real dangers?

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nexttimeigetvpn

Original post by Reue

Because making guns illegal certainly stopped both the Paris and Brussels attacks...

The fact that guns are so readily available increases the likelihood of a potential shooter going on a mass shooting.

A lot of people who have the capacity to become a shooter would not risk going underground or on the deep web to find an assault weapon.

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Original post by hovado

Yet again the attacker was on the radar, too busy surveilling eveyone to keep a close eye on the real dangers?

I assumed they picked him up twice and decided he was no threat and dropped him of their radar..? They cannot monitor every single person 24/7.. they get wind of someone where the suspicion or evidence is more concrete, they will pay much closer attention indefinitely

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Reue

Original post by nexttimeigetvpn

A lot of people who have the capacity to become a shooter would not risk going underground or on the deep web to find an assault weapon.

Just re-read that to yourself a few times...

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HanSoloLuck

Original post by Betelgeuse-

So he cant buy a gun.. he decides to make a bomb. Sourcing the materials and knowledge to make this bomb are in your opinion as easy as purchasing one of the 3.3 Million assault rifles in circulation, of which are all legal to buy?

Soon as he types in bomb material or hydrogen peroxide, or goes to his local hardware store looking for fertiliser, inteligence services will have him on their radar. Oh this guys been on our radar twice, lets surveilance him

So he burns the building down, barring the exits/starting the blaze at them, everyone dies.

This hypothetical game works both ways, it could easily have been worse if guns weren't a factor.

The problem, again, was his suicidal desire to kill homosexuals. Saying that this is a gun issue and making hypothetical scenarios were it doesn't happen because guns are illegal is a fantastically stupid and childish argument, and, is trying to, politically capitalize on the tragedy in the a shameless fashion.

People doing it, like yourself, are morally bankrupt.

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Reply 13

ChaoticButterfly

OP

Original post by Reue

Because making guns illegal certainly stopped both the Paris and Brussels attacks...

So you think a known terrorist risk should be able to buy a gun from a shop?

Would you rather the terrorists who killed Lee Rigby had had easy access to guns?

It may not be a problem caused by gun ownership (Switzerland for example have high gun ownership) but america clearly has a problem with gun killings.

Is the GOP going to block a bill preventing terrorists boarding a plane?

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hovado

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Original post by Betelgeuse-

I assumed they picked him up twice and decided he was no threat and dropped him of their radar..? They cannot monitor every single person 24/7.. they get wind of someone where the suspicion or evidence is more concrete, they will pay much closer attention indefinitely

It just amazing, all these terrorist lately have been on the radar and yet can still pop to the shop buy a gun and go on a rampage, while the rest of us are scared to type hydrogen peroxide on the internet.

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lacee_

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I think it's ridiculous that more people voted against this bill, how can anyone think it's right to let people on the terrorist watch list legally buy guns? Pretty ridiculous, no wonder it's such a big problem over there

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Reue

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

So you think a known terrorist risk should be able to buy a gun from a shop?

Nope

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

Would you rather the terrorists who killed Lee Rigby had had easy access to guns?

Nope

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

It may not be a problem caused by gun ownership (Switzerland for example have high gun ownership) but america clearly has a problem with gun killings.

Indeed.

I think you've mis-interpreted my comment of 'this won't have much/any effect' to instead being a 'I support terrorists being able to buy weapons'.

Original post by ChaoticButterfly

Is the GOP going to block a bill preventing terrorists boarding a plane?

A terrorist would be in jail. You mean suspected terrorist, surely? Should those without trial or charge be denied the same rights as a normal citizen?

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Original post by HanSoloLuck

So he burns the building down, barring the exits/starting the blaze at them, everyone dies.

This hypothetical game works both ways, it could easily have been worse if guns weren't a factor.

The problem, again, was his suicidal desire to kill homosexuals. Saying that this is a gun issue and making hypothetical scenarios were it doesn't happen because guns are illegal is a fantastically stupid and childish argument, and, is trying to, politically capitalizing on the tragedy in the most horrendously shameless fashion way.

People doing it, like yourself, are morally bankrupt.

What does he barr the exits with? Does he do this on his own whilst multiple police are shooting at him and somehow missing him? How much fuel does he need and where does it need pouring to ensure the building burns quicker than Emergency services are on the scene?

I didnt say it was a gun issue but the access to guns makes atrocities like this easier to carry out. Whether you are mental loner intent on killing grey haired men, or Islamic state wolves looking to kill Gay people... its all so so much easier with an AR-15 at your fingertips

Morally bankrupt LOL ... your suddenly a hysterical lefty now the boot is on the other foot? GTFO boy

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nexttimeigetvpn

Original post by Reue

Just re-read that to yourself a few times...

Don't patronise me. The fact that anyone can easily go and buy a gun means that some angry, impatient, hateful people will become self destructive and go and buy a gun and take it out on the world instead of sitting at home and sucking it up like most people in other countries will do.

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HucktheForde