how liberalism came from the enlightenment quickly in the mini intro, history viewed as progress, rationalism leads to strengthened belief in liberty and rationalism and rationalism allowing conflict to be solved peacefully i just wrote out whatever i could remember from heywood blindly so idk if its even relevant

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lulucoco98

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Original post by phantomspecialist

Ah I didn't put in the divine right of kings! You said you said the same thing so I'm sure you'll be fine! Did you say anything about authority? I didn't

No not authority, I don't think authority links. I said hierarchy is an inevitable feature of the organic society. Used the example of the body having different functions, some being more important than others, no different to society, there's workers and managers, leaders and followers. Thus social equality is impossible and hierarchy is inevitable.

How about other 15 markers what did you do?

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Zilein

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I reckon the nationalism 45 marker will be a kind of question like "to what extent does nationalislm breed conflict" or "nationalism is a progressive ideology" discuss. Those kinda question are what they have asked in the past anyway

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lulucoco98

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Original post by history96

how liberalism came from the enlightenment quickly in the mini intro, history viewed as progress, rationalism leads to strengthened belief in liberty and rationalism and rationalism allowing conflict to be solved peacefully i just wrote out whatever i could remember from heywood blindly so idk if its even relevant

Hey guys did you talk about modern liberals and rationalism and how they believe that people can self actualise through the (acquisition of knowledge) education and stuff like that??? Messed the liberalism 15 marker massively

Reply 867

zchilz

Any idea for unit 4 US POLITICS??

Reply 868

Ringles

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Did anyone do 3C? the American politics, is there a thread for it or anything as this one is dominated by 4C/D it seems?
If not, im a bit worried over the Pressure group 15 marker, could anyone clear it up for me?

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lulucoco98

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Original post by Zilein

I reckon the nationalism 45 marker will be a kind of question like "to what extent does nationalislm breed conflict" or "nationalism is a progressive ideology" discuss. Those kinda question are what they have asked in the past anyway

fingers crossed.

Reply 870

xxvine

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Original post by history96

how liberalism came from the enlightenment quickly in the mini intro, history viewed as progress, rationalism leads to strengthened belief in liberty and rationalism and rationalism allowing conflict to be solved peacefully i just wrote out whatever i could remember from heywood blindly so idk if its even relevant

My friend wrote about the social contract theory for rationalism
He said he just couldn't remember anything so he wrote how Hobbes and locked used rational thinking to sacrifice Liberty in order for social order
That doesn't sound right does it lol?

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needanewusername

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I think the 45 mark question went really well, but I have a few worries about the 15 mark questions, was wondering if any of you could help.

Particularly worried about the rationalism question. I did a solid first paragraph with a definition of rationalism and about how liberalism and rationalism were both formed in the Enlightenment period and both therefore place strong faith in reason and progress, but then basically ran out of things to say and made some stuff up on the spot about how negative libertarians believe humans are inherently self-seeking, and used the reason and logic associated with the Enlightenment to come to the conclusion that individualism is more favourable than collectivism, since humans would not willingly cooperate in a collectivist society, and thus individualism is logically preferable. Is that last bit even relevant and does it make sense?

Also did the socialism/collectivism question, and somehow managed to forget to mention how they both see humans as sociable, cooperative etc. and would naturally work better in a system of mutual interdependence. Instead, I just defined collectivism, and went into how different strands of socialism have endorsed collectivism, with Marxists and Leninists being more economically radical, and Social Democrats being less radical but that this does not negate their commitment to collectivism as they show a desire to improve on previous methods which have failed. Obviously I went a little more in-depth, but is this a problem?

Probably just be worrying about nothing but really annoyed I forgot my plans, thanks and hope your exams went well

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MouseyBrown

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What was the wording of the last socialism 15 marker - anyone remember?

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NOP97

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For social hierarchy I put;

Natural leaders, noblesse oblige, authority of church and state due to human nature being flawed intellectually, morally, psychologically flawed, and tradition

Forgot organic...

For liberalism and rationalism, I explained how the enlightenment created the capacity to reason. This created the need for a limited state. This allowed for debate to occur to solve conflicts. This means a protection of civil rights and freedoms and individualism.

Am I fooked? I don't know haha :/

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username1447874

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Original post by lulucoco98

No not authority, I don't think authority links. I said hierarchy is an inevitable feature of the organic society. Used the example of the body having different functions, some being more important than others, no different to society, there's workers and managers, leaders and followers. Thus social equality is impossible and hierarchy is inevitable.

How about other 15 markers what did you do?

Oh right okay. I did the one about marxist vs anarchist view on the state and socialists supporting collectivism. Wbu?

Reply 875

Zilein

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Original post by MouseyBrown

What was the wording of the last socialism 15 marker - anyone remember?

Why do socialist promote a evolutionary road to gradualism (something like that if not that)

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MouseyBrown

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Original post by Zilein

Why do socialist promote a evolutionary road to gradualism (something like that if not that)

Thanks man, keep having moments where I worry I misread a question. That was just the standard 'inevitably of gradualism' stuff then.

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Rainbow54321

Can somebody give me the answers for 15 mark 1.socialist collectivism 2.conservatism hierarchy

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Joejj2183

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Original post by needanewusername

I think the 45 mark question went really well, but I have a few worries about the 15 mark questions, was wondering if any of you could help.

Particularly worried about the rationalism question. I did a solid first paragraph with a definition of rationalism and about how liberalism and rationalism were both formed in the Enlightenment period and both therefore place strong faith in reason and progress, but then basically ran out of things to say and made some stuff up on the spot about how negative libertarians believe humans are inherently self-seeking, and used the reason and logic associated with the Enlightenment to come to the conclusion that individualism is more favourable than collectivism, since humans would not willingly cooperate in a collectivist society, and thus individualism is logically preferable. Is that last bit even relevant and does it make sense?

Also did the socialism/collectivism question, and somehow managed to forget to mention how they both see humans as sociable, cooperative etc. and would naturally work better in a system of mutual interdependence. Instead, I just defined collectivism, and went into how different strands of socialism have endorsed collectivism, with Marxists and Leninists being more economically radical, and Social Democrats being less radical but that this does not negate their commitment to collectivism as they show a desire to improve on previous methods which have failed. Obviously I went a little more in-depth, but is this a problem?

Probably just be worrying about nothing but really annoyed I forgot my plans, thanks and hope your exams went well

hello sorry i did not do the socialism question 15 marker but did the rationalism one.

Noe sure if correct myself but my structure was like:

- Intro
- How rationalism came about (enlightment onwards)
- (1) reason why they link is because rationality strengthens individualism and liberty...explain then in contrast they reject paternalism
- (2) reason why it links is because it allows society to progress, then comparison point to conservatives on tradition being backward looking whether than forward like liberals
- (3) point talked about how it promotes discussion debate, and argument but they are not pacifist in contrast

something along those lines briefly

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Joejj2183

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Original post by Rainbow54321

Can somebody give me the answers for 15 mark 1.socialist collectivism 2.conservatism hierarchy

Not sure if im right but for conservatism on social hierarchy i talked about it in the following order

- Conservative introduction
- their view on natural hierarchal society link with organic society
- social equality is a myth to them and non desirable and compared to socialist view on social equality with communal living that Owen and Fourier went on to emphasis
- Burke on 'natural aristocracy'
- then link to authority as they believe in social obligation as a natural hierarchal trait of organic society, seen as 'natural necessity'
- then went on about having healthy respect for authority...explain...
- differ from authoritarian conservatism

something like that but went in detail in exam

Edexcel Government and Politics A2 2016 - Unit 3 and Unit 4

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