Even if you're pro-guns, why on earth are automatic rifles available in America?

A shotgun certificate won’t be given or renewed if the chief officer of police has a reason that you shouldn’t be allowed to have a shotgun under the Firearms Act. Or if they don’t think you have a good reason to have, buy or acquire a shotgun. - gov.uk

It's just insane people still believe that you don't need good reason to obtain a shotgun certificate.
You can't legally own one without a certificate, just in case you were wondering.

It's certainly not suitable to be posted on the forum, but if you believe the argument about self defence then you should look up Jim Jefferies argument about guns.

I say good reason in terms of having an FAC which requires you to have a specific reason and generally land or part of a shooting club . This is not the case for shotguns.

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/shooting/start-shooting/how-to-get-shotgun-certificate-licence-32358

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A shotgun certificate won’t be given or renewed if the chief officer of police has a reason that you shouldn’t be allowed to have a shotgun under the Firearms Act. Or if they don’t think you have a good reason to have, buy or acquire a shotgun. - gov.uk

It's just insane people still believe that you don't need good reason to obtain a shotgun certificate.
You can't legally own one without a certificate, just in case you were wondering.

I say good reason in terms of having an FAC which requires you to have a specific reason and generally land or part of a shooting club . This is not the case for shotguns.

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/shooting/start-shooting/how-to-get-shotgun-certificate-licence-32358

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When you are used to almost no shootings at at all, more than four in one go does seem like an awful lot, I must admit.
However, I guess that when shootings of more than four people happen on an almost daily basis, you must get a little jaded.

I find it amusing that people cry about America but unlike them we have no caliber limit for rifles, if you can afford £10k you can get a .50cal Barrett.

Yes You really do need a good reason. Self defense is not one.
I am currently In the process of getting my license for guns and Shotguns so I know, and the process is hard

Simply saying that you want to take part in field sports is good enough reason to be able to get a shotgun. If you did that for an FAC they would tell you to get ****ed. This is where I make the difference between the "good reason" clause.

Getting a shotgun is not a hard process, it is easier than getting a driving licence.

You said you don't need a "good reason to own a shotgun".
You do. It even says so in the link you posted - although the gov't site explaining the procedure is probably more reliable than smallpenis?getagun.co.uk

Yeah but don't you have to let PC Plod in your house to look at your gun safe?

Yeah but don't you have to let PC Plod in your house to look at your gun safe?

Yeah, there's nothing very hard about that provided you do in fact have one installed. Besides waiting for them to get through their several month backlog.

Is it a case of he comes, say hi, you show him, he leaves, or is there a subtle interrogation as well?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/firearms-law-guidance-to-the-police-2012

Have a read.

Shotguns are not covered under the extentsive "good reason" clause for FACs. That is why I put "good reason" in quotes, the good reason clause for shotguns is easy to pass which is why they are easy to posses.

What are you on about? Shotguns are not exempt from the applicant having "good reason" to posses them.

Which part of not covered under the extensive "good reason" clause (Section 13 if you are struggling) do you not understand?

You seem confused. Probably best if you just quote the paragraph that states that prospective shotgun owners do not need to have "good reason" for possession.

After all, you did say..."you don't actually need "good reason" to own a shotgun."

Whereas the regulations state that the police can refuse a shotgun licence..."if they don’t think you have a good reason to have, buy or acquire a shotgun. - gov.uk

From my own recollection of it (I have a shotgun license), I think it was kind of a subtle difference. They won't give you a shotgun license for no reason at all, but I was under the impression that provided you meet the requirements the default position is "we'll give you a license" unless there's a good reason not to, and something like "I want to shoot clays as a hobby" is considered a sufficiently good reason. For a firearms license (ie. rifles generally, and especially anything more exotic than a .22 bolt action thing), even if you meet the requirements the default position is they're not going to give you a license unless you have a good reason for needing it, like working protecting your crops from wildlife. They're rather more stringent in checking why you need it (I think you have to justify each individual gun as well, or at least each "type" of gun).

tldr; shotguns, assume it's fine unless there's a good reason to think otherwise. Anything else, it's not fine unless there's a good reason to think otherwise.