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Suspicious exam marking...

Hi,

I received grades for summer exams a couple of days ago. I thought the exams went well, but for the two that I thought went best, I only achieved 55 and 57. Now, until this point, I had gained firsts in every single assignment/exam this year.

Getting a bit suspicious at this point.

To make matters even more peculiar, a course mate of mine received feedback for their exam stating "excellent demonstration of...", despite the fact that this person didn't even have time to demonstrate what the lecturers had mentioned.

Does something seem odd to anyone?

Is there anything that can be done to appeal this?

Thank you
Original post by MrBean1994
Hi,

I received grades for summer exams a couple of days ago. I thought the exams went well, but for the two that I thought went best, I only achieved 55 and 57. Now, until this point, I had gained firsts in every single assignment/exam this year.

Getting a bit suspicious at this point.

To make matters even more peculiar, a course mate of mine received feedback for their exam stating "excellent demonstration of...", despite the fact that this person didn't even have time to demonstrate what the lecturers had mentioned.

Does something seem odd to anyone?

Is there anything that can be done to appeal this?

Thank you


While that makes it more likely for you to gain a first in your exams, it doesn't automatically mean that you will. It's still possible that you could've got 55 & 57 in your exams, despite your previous high grades. There is literally nothing about this alone that is suspicious.

Your friend's situation isn't suspicious to me either. Whatever it is that they demonstrated may have been demonstrated in ways other than what your friend had time for. Unless you clarify that situation, then again, can't really comment on the suspicion of it.

In your scenario, my first instinct wouldn't be "oh damn I get firsts for everything, they've messed up the marking," it would be "****, where did I go wrong?" You should go to your course staff and request to see your marked exam script so you can see where you dropped the marks. Then, and only then, if it still seems unfair, can you think about appealing it. At the minute, it just sounds like you're bummed out about some marks and want a way out of it.
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Original post by GoingToBurst
While that makes it more likely for you to gain a first in your exams, it doesn't automatically mean that you will. It's still possible that you could've got 55 & 57 in your exams, despite your previous high grades. There is literally nothing about this alone that is suspicious.

Your friend's situation isn't suspicious to me either. Whatever it is that they demonstrated may have been demonstrated in ways other than what your friend had time for. Unless you clarify that situation, then again, can't really comment on the suspicion of it.

In your scenario, my first instinct wouldn't be "oh damn I get firsts for everything, they've messed up the marking," it would be "****, where did I go wrong?" You should go to your course staff and request to see your marked exam script so you can see where you dropped the marks. Then, and only then, if it still seems unfair, can you think about appealing it. At the minute, it just sounds like you're bummed out about some marks and want a way out of it.


Thanks for your response :smile:

I appreciate the demonstration comment. However, because it was a practical exam, it's like stating "excellent demonstration of an injection", when the student didn't even perform an injection. So it's not like there could have ben aspects of demonstration. What do you think?

I'm sure I sound like a sore loser, but I can't get my head around it. I practiced for this exam with my course mate in exactly the same way as we took turns with each other being the examiner.

It was just the shock of thinking I couldn't have done anything more in the exam and then coming out with an awful grade like that.
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Original post by MrBean1994
Thanks for your response :smile:

I appreciate the demonstration comment. However, because it was a practical exam, it's like stating "excellent demonstration of an injection", when the student didn't even perform an injection. So it's not like there could have ben aspects of demonstration. What do you think?

I'm sure I sound like a sore loser, but I can't get my head around it. I practiced for this exam with my course mate in exactly the same way as we took turns with each other being the examiner.

It was just the shock of thinking I couldn't have done anything more in the exam and then coming out with an awful grade like that.


Your friend received feedback, did you not? Go and ask for it and see what you did wrong, you might not have realised your own mistakes
Original post by MrBean1994
Thanks for your response :smile:

I appreciate the demonstration comment. However, because it was a practical exam, it's like stating "excellent demonstration of an injection", when the student didn't even perform an injection. So it's not like there could have ben aspects of demonstration. What do you think?

I'm sure I sound like a sore loser, but I can't get my head around it. I practiced for this exam with my course mate in exactly the same way as we took turns with each other being the examiner.

It was just the shock of thinking I couldn't have done anything more in the exam and then coming out with an awful grade like that.


i wouldn't say it's an awful grade I mean it's not what you want i understand that I sure there is an appeal process if you really think they made a mistake.
Original post by MrBean1994
Thanks for your response :smile:

I appreciate the demonstration comment. However, because it was a practical exam, it's like stating "excellent demonstration of an injection", when the student didn't even perform an injection. So it's not like there could have ben aspects of demonstration. What do you think?

I'm sure I sound like a sore loser, but I can't get my head around it. I practiced for this exam with my course mate in exactly the same way as we took turns with each other being the examiner.

It was just the shock of thinking I couldn't have done anything more in the exam and then coming out with an awful grade like that.


Again, it depends exactly what was said and what the marking criteria were. If the marking criteria for the injection were based around care and preparation of the area to be injected, as well as careful preparation of the tools being used, then the examiner may have been able to give marks for those aspects despite the full injection not being carried out. It is entirely dependent on the marking scheme though. Similarly, they may just have confused two people and given your friend someone else's mark. The problem with practical exams like this seems to be that unless they are recorded, then you can't prove that you did or didn't do something. Unless of course, you had to take note of everything you were doing and get that signed off by the examiner at the time.

I know you're bummed out, I would be too, but unless you ask to see where you went wrong and find that it was incorrect marking, then there isn't anything you can do about it so you should just try to move on.
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Original post by rxns_00
Your friend received feedback, did you not? Go and ask for it and see what you did wrong, you might not have realised your own mistakes


Having read the feedback, I disagree with what they've said. They've said that I didn't state specific things or perform them in the correct manner - which I know for a fact I 100% did as that's the way it was practiced religiously for the better part of 2 weeks. Is there grounds for an appeal? Thanks
Original post by MrBean1994
Having read the feedback, I disagree with what they've said. They've said that I didn't state specific things or perform them in the correct manner - which I know for a fact I 100% did as that's the way it was practiced religiously for the better part of 2 weeks. Is there grounds for an appeal? Thanks


Only if you can prove that you stated the things they claim you didn't, and that you performed certain things correctly. If you can't prove it, you can't appeal it.
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Original post by GoingToBurst
Only if you can prove that you stated the things they claim you didn't, and that you performed certain things correctly. If you can't prove it, you can't appeal it.


The exam was video'd so there will be evidence. By any chance do you know whether the grounds would be either:

a. Procedural irregularity in the assessment process

or

b. Bias or perception of bias

Thank you
Look at the rules and follow the formal remark procedures. They will be available from your department or the exam board website. You may have to pay.
Original post by MrBean1994
Having read the feedback, I disagree with what they've said. They've said that I didn't state specific things or perform them in the correct manner - which I know for a fact I 100% did as that's the way it was practiced religiously for the better part of 2 weeks. Is there grounds for an appeal? Thanks


Well do you have any proof that you've said things they said you never mentioned? If you have no proof you can't really argue and say "I did better than this" because they'll just say you cant be the examiner to yourself
Original post by rxns_00
Well do you have any proof that you've said things they said you never mentioned? If you have no proof you can't really argue and say "I did better than this" because they'll just say you cant be the examiner to yourself


The exam was filmed so there would be evidence of it.
Original post by MrBean1994
The exam was filmed so there would be evidence of it.


Then ask for possible remark maybe?
Original post by MrBean1994
Having read the feedback, I disagree with what they've said. They've said that I didn't state specific things or perform them in the correct manner - which I know for a fact I 100% did as that's the way it was practiced religiously for the better part of 2 weeks. Is there grounds for an appeal? Thanks


Ask for further feedback and clarification as you think you did X and Y before going for a formal complaint.

To be honest, some of the exams I felt I did really well in have come back with marks in the 50s (and I got 75% overall) so it's not unusual and in the heat of the moment in an exam it's very possible that you made mistakes on something you knew well and don't remember perfectly what happened now. You shouldn't bring your friend's results into this at all as you have no idea whether or not what they are saying is true or misremembered or a lie, focus on your own results.

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