The Manchester United Thread XX

Hmmm, maybe he just found a generic picture of a white man and showed us all. #exposed

Srs though, however you look, somebody with low confidence is always gonna rate themselves worse than they actually are.
I'm a 5.5 which I think is fair and I doubt you're any lower than that, probably higher tbh mate.

Would people rather hang out with sr90 or sheddy? That's the real question.

No news yet on his future. He was supposed to be meeting Mourinho few weeks ago but not sure if that's happened. Would think it hasn't as there hasn't been any news on him. Don't envisage him being at the club tbh

Posted from TSR Mobile

Media reporting today that Jose does not want Giggs as assistant because he could be a managerial rival, reports said Jose think Giggs distanced himself from LVG and Moyes when the going got tough.

To be fair that is a pretty reasonable explanation imo, if he doesn't trust Giggsy then having him as part of the team would only cause trouble. If Giggs wants to be manager he needs to go out and get some experience if not that then at least manage the u21s, Lets not forget Giggs management record so far is not perfect, he's been assistant 2 times in 2 failed regimes.

Giggs does have to go for now, his initial purpose under Moyes failed, his repurposed role under LVG hasn't materialised. Him being around just looks bad, as everyone knows he's being groomed for the job. His presence is just destabilising, and it tbh its not helpful for him. I don't think he's any closer to being appointed now than when he started, and he won't be until he has success somewhere else.

Yukinoshita-san has spoken

And the hostile environment that Mourinho creates begins..

Media reporting today that Jose does not want Giggs as assistant because he could be a managerial rival, reports said Jose think Giggs distanced himself from LVG and Moyes when the going got tough.

To be fair that is a pretty reasonable explanation imo, if he doesn't trust Giggsy then having him as part of the team would only cause trouble. If Giggs wants to be manager he needs to go out and get some experience if not that then at least manage the u21s, Lets not forget Giggs management record so far is not perfect, he's been assistant 2 times in 2 failed regimes.

He's not wrong, though.

Giggs has done nothing to prove he is good enough to be manager here. He has been an assistant for two managers and both regimes ended in failure. He can leave and get experience managing another team.

His job was to only support Moyes and LVG - why blame Giggs for the failure of your owners/executive of picking the wrong managers?

Impossible to judge from the outside if Giggs is doing a good job or not but Mourinho wants to get rid for all the wrong reasons (which should cause alarm bells).

The assistant manager must be there to do more than just 'support'. What is the point in them being in the role if they're not really doing anything? Unless they're there just to be yes men. That just makes their presence even more pointless The failure is down to the whole of the management structure and not just one person.

I also didn't see Van Gaal being the wrong pick at the time. It made a lot of sense. It didn't work, but I don't blame the club for appointing him. Moyes was obviously a bad pick from the start.

Based on the stories that were coming out during the end of Moyes' and Van Gaal's time here, I'm not surprised that Mourinho wants him to leave.

Giggs is a legend here and I massively respect him for everything he has done for the club on the field. That being said, this isn't Giggs United. He can't expect to be given the managers job, without proving himself beforehand.

Lol at that so when Van Gaal was giving him control of the Barcelona team in the copa del rey didn't see him complain.

But Mourinho bringing in his own team won't be full of yes men?

Giggs not being assistant manager means that if Mourinho is struggling at any point, there won't be a logical candidate already at the club that can replace him. It's an entirely cynical act by Mourinho to ensure the strongest possible position for himself (whether it is bad or good for the club).

I'd look at it as more losing a man of huge influence who lived and breathed SAF's philosophy.

1/10 at best, nobody wanted Giggs to stay because he wouldn't, nor we wouldn't benefit from him being on the sidelines, learning nothing and developing nothing whilst Mourinho does a mad one. Mourinho has worked with certain coaches all his career, don't see why you'd say it's toxic for him to have this continuation in his managerial development lol. Giggs doesn't, and likely never will, "breathe SAF's philosophy" which was largely an absolute elite mentality (as a manager anyway).


Posted from TSR Mobile

But Mourinho bringing in his own team won't be full of yes men?

Giggs not being assistant manager means that if Mourinho is struggling at any point, there won't be a logical candidate already at the club that can replace him. It's an entirely cynical act by Mourinho to ensure the strongest possible position for himself (whether it is bad or good for the club).

I'd look at it as more losing a man of huge influence who lived and breathed SAF's philosophy.