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Can you link online gaming in your UCAS personal statement?

okay here me out, I feel some skills can be learned from gaming online which are useful, like: teamwork, dealing with all types of people, taking initiative, decision making, researching and gaining knowledge of the game, learning from peers + those better/more knowledgable than yourself, applying knowledge you've learned. I'm struggling as to what I should put on my statement when applying to study maths/physics at uni, and I don't have many hobbies aside from gaming. I'm on about 500 words and I know this isn't enough. any advice?

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Original post by theguywhosaidhi
okay here me out, I feel some skills can be learned from gaming online which are useful, like: teamwork, dealing with all types of people, taking initiative, decision making, researching and gaining knowledge of the game, learning from peers + those better/more knowledgable than yourself, applying knowledge you've learned. I'm struggling as to what I should put on my statement when applying to study maths/physics at uni, and I don't have many hobbies aside from gaming. I'm on about 500 words and I know this isn't enough. any advice?


You can certainly put it on, it's equally valid as "playing flute has taught me many valuable skills such as teamwork and etc.". However, most of what you write should be directly related to the subjects you're applying for -- at most 100 words on unrelated hobbies. If you are applying for maths and physics it should be easy, because you have twice as much to write about! I'd read some books/do some online courses over the summer to put on it.
Original post by sweeneyrod
You can certainly put it on, it's equally valid as "playing flute has taught me many valuable skills such as teamwork and etc.". However, most of what you write should be directly related to the subjects you're applying for -- at most 100 words on unrelated hobbies. If you are applying for maths and physics it should be easy, because you have twice as much to write about! I'd read some books/do some online courses over the summer to put on it.


what could working in a pet store and a cafe have taught me? I said:
'My work’s experience ranges from a pet store to a café,which although has no real science or mathematical link, still has provided abeneficial experience to me. It taught me how to deal with pressure and stressunder timely conditions, working as a team, interacting with customers andtaking initiative. I understand that working under pressure, working as a teamand taking initiative are often key for university life, and I now feel wellequipped in that field. Although I prefer to work independently, I have noissue working as team.'Do you have any books to read in particular?
Original post by theguywhosaidhi
what could working in a pet store and a cafe have taught me? I said:
'My work’s experience ranges from a pet store to a café,which although has no real science or mathematical link, still has provided abeneficial experience to me. It taught me how to deal with pressure and stressunder timely conditions, working as a team, interacting with customers andtaking initiative. I understand that working under pressure, working as a teamand taking initiative are often key for university life, and I now feel wellequipped in that field. Although I prefer to work independently, I have noissue working as team.'Do you have any books to read in particular?


I would say 'these qualities' instead of repeating the list again as otherwise it is repetitive and wastes characters.

I would just talk about the qualities involved. But it doesn't need to be long.

You need to make sure you write about why you want to study your chosen subject.
Don't do it


Just no
Original post by theguywhosaidhi
what could working in a pet store and a cafe have taught me? I said:
'My work’s experience ranges from a pet store to a café,which although has no real science or mathematical link, still has provided abeneficial experience to me. It taught me how to deal with pressure and stressunder timely conditions, working as a team, interacting with customers andtaking initiative. I understand that working under pressure, working as a teamand taking initiative are often key for university life, and I now feel wellequipped in that field. Although I prefer to work independently, I have noissue working as team.'Do you have any books to read in particular?


Yes, that sounds pretty good (you could also put something about taking on responsibility). Maths books: Simon Singh's Fermat's Last Theorem is the classic "maths book to put on a personal statement", some others I remember reading are Gödel, Escher, Bach, and Prelude To Mathematics. Physics books: A Brief History Of Time, and Why Does E=mc^2 (And Why Should We Care)?. You can also read magazines (New Scientist, Scientific American) and there are some good lectures online (I like the MIT ones).
Original post by Magic Member
Don't do it


Just no


This. You may think it sounds smart but just for the love of God no.
I'd literally laugh out loud and show everyone if i was receiving applications and saw that.
Im an online gamer but please, mentioning it is pretty much suicide
Original post by sweeneyrod
Yes, that sounds pretty good (you could also put something about taking on responsibility). Maths books: Simon Singh's Fermat's Last Theorem is the classic "maths book to put on a personal statement", some others I remember reading are Gödel, Escher, Bach, and Prelude To Mathematics. Physics books: A Brief History Of Time, and Why Does E=mc^2 (And Why Should We Care)?. You can also read magazines (New Scientist, Scientific American) and there are some good lectures online (I like the MIT ones).


thanks for your time, I'll note this down :smile:
Original post by BirdIsWord
This. You may think it sounds smart but just for the love of God no.
I'd literally laugh out loud and show everyone if i was receiving applications and saw that.
Im an online gamer but please, mentioning it is pretty much suicide


any reason why?
Original post by theguywhosaidhi
any reason why?


It just doesnt sound good bro
Unless you're really scraping the barrel for your personal statement I would be inclined to not put it on. I didn't actually end up with anything on my personal statement about my hobbies as I had no room, but I almost certainly have far more experience than you!

Regarding the pet store, I think you should really try to milk this. You were in charge of living things and if you did not look after them properly, feed them correctly etc. you could cause them real harm. Therefore you were in a position of quite a bit of responsibility for ensuring the welfare and care of these animals. I would attempt to use this work to show how responsible, caring and diligent you were. Given you will be at university under your own steam, responsibility for your own education is important and it will hopefully show a level of maturity others may lack.

As part of the cafe, how big was it? Did you have a "production line" going on? Someone makes food/coffee, someone takes orders, someone delivers orders or somesuch? Focus on how you were required to be the face of the business, requiring you to be polite, well kept and professional. At the same time reflect on how you had to work as part of a team to get the job finished, each of you with your own roles. Of course here you're referring to team work and using people's specialisations to get a job done.

Best of luck with the personal statement.
Original post by BirdIsWord
It just doesnt sound good bro


hehe xd run it down mid

hey I think there is stuff to learn from it, other stuff I used to do I don't do anymore like play football, and even then I just did it with friends for enjoyment. I know it's frowned upon, meh I'll just leave out personal interests for now and think about it later - first draft is for tomorrow for me though
Original post by sweeneyrod
Yes, that sounds pretty good (you could also put something about taking on responsibility). Maths books: Simon Singh's Fermat's Last Theorem is the classic "maths book to put on a personal statement", some others I remember reading are Gödel, Escher, Bach, and Prelude To Mathematics. Physics books: A Brief History Of Time, and Why Does E=mc^2 (And Why Should We Care)?. You can also read magazines (New Scientist, Scientific American) and there are some good lectures online (I like the MIT ones).


I'd just add to this, don't put on anything you're not actually going to read.

There is no point getting to an interview and being asked about the book and not having a clue.
Original post by theguywhosaidhi
okay here me out, I feel some skills can be learned from gaming online which are useful, like: teamwork, dealing with all types of people, taking initiative, decision making, researching and gaining knowledge of the game, learning from peers + those better/more knowledgable than yourself, applying knowledge you've learned. I'm struggling as to what I should put on my statement when applying to study maths/physics at uni, and I don't have many hobbies aside from gaming. I'm on about 500 words and I know this isn't enough. any advice?


you could list it as a hobby / interest otherwise not really...
Original post by Elivercury
Unless you're really scraping the barrel for your personal statement I would be inclined to not put it on. I didn't actually end up with anything on my personal statement about my hobbies as I had no room, but I almost certainly have far more experience than you!

Regarding the pet store, I think you should really try to milk this. You were in charge of living things and if you did not look after them properly, feed them correctly etc. you could cause them real harm. Therefore you were in a position of quite a bit of responsibility for ensuring the welfare and care of these animals. I would attempt to use this work to show how responsible, caring and diligent you were. Given you will be at university under your own steam, responsibility for your own education is important and it will hopefully show a level of maturity others may lack.

As part of the cafe, how big was it? Did you have a "production line" going on? Someone makes food/coffee, someone takes orders, someone delivers orders or somesuch? Focus on how you were required to be the face of the business, requiring you to be polite, well kept and professional. At the same time reflect on how you had to work as part of a team to get the job finished, each of you with your own roles. Of course here you're referring to team work and using people's specialisations to get a job done.

Best of luck with the personal statement.


great ideas, thanks a lot, so do you suggest making the work's experience section longer/greater depth? I think my main experience point to talk about is when I visited CERN in Switzerland, but I'm not sure what to write about that.
Original post by theguywhosaidhi
great ideas, thanks a lot, so do you suggest making the work's experience section longer/greater depth? I think my main experience point to talk about is when I visited CERN in Switzerland, but I'm not sure what to write about that.


To be honest, I'd look at some guides on this website and around to advise roughly on what the content should be. My personal statement was for a PGDE so it's a very different beast and focused heavily on my existing teaching experience.

That being said, I think you should definitely put some emphasis on it.

The key to selling yourself with things like personal statements and CVs is to show, not talk. It's difficult, but doable.

For example, I can say I am good at maths - okay so what?
I say I got an A* in maths at A level - okay, he's good at maths.

Likewise for your work experience. Don't tell them you are responsible and hard working. Tell them you had responsibility for the care of 50+ pets on a daily basis and you've spent every summer working 40+ hours a week since you were 16.

Incidentally if you've done anything truly impressive online you could consider including it. For example "I have run an online club (read:guild) with 100-200 members for the past 3 years and have been responsible for our collective efforts". However I'd see how you get on with real life stuff first - a personal statement isn't that long and you have to pick and choose what you put on it.

Obviously the above examples are just that and may not be quite usable for you, but hopefully you get the idea. Best of luck with it and I'm sure you'll do great!
Original post by Elivercury
To be honest, I'd look at some guides on this website and around to advise roughly on what the content should be. My personal statement was for a PGDE so it's a very different beast and focused heavily on my existing teaching experience.

That being said, I think you should definitely put some emphasis on it.

The key to selling yourself with things like personal statements and CVs is to show, not talk. It's difficult, but doable.

For example, I can say I am good at maths - okay so what?
I say I got an A* in maths at A level - okay, he's good at maths.

Likewise for your work experience. Don't tell them you are responsible and hard working. Tell them you had responsibility for the care of 50+ pets on a daily basis and you've spent every summer working 40+ hours a week since you were 16.

Incidentally if you've done anything truly impressive online you could consider including it. For example "I have run an online club (read:guild) with 100-200 members for the past 3 years and have been responsible for our collective efforts". However I'd see how you get on with real life stuff first - a personal statement isn't that long and you have to pick and choose what you put on it.

Obviously the above examples are just that and may not be quite usable for you, but hopefully you get the idea. Best of luck with it and I'm sure you'll do great!


thanks a lot for your time, really helped. :smile:
Sounds tacky and un-professional. + I see you are a league player. By adding gaming into your PS you are probably trying to justify to yourself that your addiction actually holds some value, but it doesn't. Gaming is a waste of time and only NEETS play video games to that extent where they try leverage gaming above a hobby
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Original post by Elivercury
I'd just add to this, don't put on anything you're not actually going to read.

There is no point getting to an interview and being asked about the book and not having a clue.


I did.
Most of my friends did. Just read a few summaries/analyses of the book and you're good to go
Original post by glebp
Sounds tacky and un-professional. + I see you are a league player. By adding gaming into your PS you are probably trying to justify to yourself that your addiction actually holds some value, but it doesn't. Gaming is a waste of time and only NEETS play video games to that extent where they try leverage gaming above a hobby


Gaming is a hobby though? I don't really feel the OP is trying to justify anything, he's simply exploring his options. To be honest I have used far more teamwork playing videogames than I have most jobs, but as you demonstrate it doesn't have the best reputation and is something best avoiding in a professional context.

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