Semi-quant degree (Econ) at a semi target vs a softer degree (Mgmt) at a target?
I'm was going to apply to read Management at LSE and Warwick but after looking into some articles/forum threads, I've gotten a bit worried as people/employers seem to see it as a bit of a weak degree where you don't really learn much of anything useful and that I may be better off applying to study something like Economics . My primary issue is I only have AAA (+ A* in EPQ) at A-Level which more or less prevents me from studying Econ at a target so realistically I'd be aiming at semi-targets such as Bath, Nottingham, Manchester and maybe Durham through their Foundation Year program.
My question is pretty much this, which would put me in a better position for a career on the buy side, Management at LSE/Warwick or Economics at Durham/Bath/Manchester/Nottingham assuming everything else apart from the course are the same (extra curricular activities, work experience, grades etc).
From the threads and articles I've read it seems that people are of the opinion that undergraduate business education is a waste of your university years where you don't learn anything useful that you couldn't learn easily by yourself and that employers (particularly in Asset Management and Private Equity) favour those with more quantitative or traditional degrees. From reading the course modules on the university websites it seems to me to be quite an interesting and diverse degree but what do you guys think?
In summary (assuming the above post is too long to read);
- Articles and forum threads seem to suggest business is a weak degree
- I can only get into Econ at a semi target due to my grades
- Which is better (for buy side work) Management at a target (i.e. LSE, Warwick) or Econ at a semi-target (Nott/Bath/Manc/Durham) assuming all else equal.
My question is pretty much this, which would put me in a better position for a career on the buy side, Management at LSE/Warwick or Economics at Durham/Bath/Manchester/Nottingham assuming everything else apart from the course are the same (extra curricular activities, work experience, grades etc).
From the threads and articles I've read it seems that people are of the opinion that undergraduate business education is a waste of your university years where you don't learn anything useful that you couldn't learn easily by yourself and that employers (particularly in Asset Management and Private Equity) favour those with more quantitative or traditional degrees. From reading the course modules on the university websites it seems to me to be quite an interesting and diverse degree but what do you guys think?
In summary (assuming the above post is too long to read);
- Articles and forum threads seem to suggest business is a weak degree
- I can only get into Econ at a semi target due to my grades
- Which is better (for buy side work) Management at a target (i.e. LSE, Warwick) or Econ at a semi-target (Nott/Bath/Manc/Durham) assuming all else equal.
Im doing same as you, econ at semi
Original post by govandpolitics
Im doing same as you, econ at semi
That's great and I wish you good luck in your studies. Do you have any advice regarding the questions above?
Original post by Qin Shi Huang
That's great and I wish you good luck in your studies. Do you have any advice regarding the questions above?
i wouldn't really say there is much difference in terms of prospects.
@Princepieman can help
You are not going to get a quant position with economics anyway. Man, degree does not matter. The amount of times this has been discussed. Employers care about the reputation of the university, not the course. Management is the perfect degree. It is an easy way to get a solid brand name on your CV, while also enjoying your 3 years.
Target, for sure. Even if it was History or Philosophy at a target in constrast to econ at a semi target, I would still go for the target.
Target, for sure. Even if it was History or Philosophy at a target in constrast to econ at a semi target, I would still go for the target.
Original post by glebp
You are not going to get a quant position with economics anyway. Man, degree does not matter. The amount of times this has been discussed. Employers care about the reputation of the university, not the course. Management is the perfect degree. It is an easy way to get a solid brand name on your CV, while also enjoying your 3 years.
Target, for sure. Even if it was History or Philosophy at a target in constrast to econ at a semi target, I would still go for the target.
Target, for sure. Even if it was History or Philosophy at a target in constrast to econ at a semi target, I would still go for the target.
This.
I'm revising rn, so can't help much.
Original post by glebp
You are not going to get a quant position with economics anyway. Man, degree does not matter. The amount of times this has been discussed. Employers care about the reputation of the university, not the course. Management is the perfect degree. It is an easy way to get a solid brand name on your CV, while also enjoying your 3 years.
Target, for sure. Even if it was History or Philosophy at a target in constrast to econ at a semi target, I would still go for the target.
Target, for sure. Even if it was History or Philosophy at a target in constrast to econ at a semi target, I would still go for the target.
I appreciate the detailed response, it's not my intention to be a Quant it just seems that several buy side firms emphasise strong analytical and numerical skills. The graduate salaries also seems to lag behind Economics at most if not all of the semi-targets but the response rates to the surveys tend to be quite low so likely not that accurate. Do you know what the graduate destinations are for Management at Warwick? The information they provide on the WBS website is from 2010/11 so pretty dated.
Original post by Qin Shi Huang
I appreciate the detailed response, it's not my intention to be a Quant it just seems that several buy side firms emphasise strong analytical and numerical skills. The graduate salaries also seems to lag behind Economics at most if not all of the semi-targets but the response rates to the surveys tend to be quite low so likely not that accurate. Do you know what the graduate destinations are for Management at Warwick? The information they provide on the WBS website is from 2010/11 so pretty dated.
Grad salaries mean bugger all.
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Original post by Qin Shi Huang
I appreciate the detailed response, it's not my intention to be a Quant it just seems that several buy side firms emphasise strong analytical and numerical skills. The graduate salaries also seems to lag behind Economics at most if not all of the semi-targets but the response rates to the surveys tend to be quite low so likely not that accurate. Do you know what the graduate destinations are for Management at Warwick? The information they provide on the WBS website is from 2010/11 so pretty dated.
In a WBS group chat. One kid said he got a JPM internship. Was lurking around linkedin, saw a portfolio manager at blackrock after completing a managment degree from there. Semi-target is a no no, no matter what subject, priority => target, any degree
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In a WBS group chat. One kid said he got a JPM internship. Was lurking around linkedin, saw a portfolio manager at blackrock after completing a managment degree from there. Semi-target is a no no, no matter what subject, priority => target, any degree
Was probably the social mobility one, tbf
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Man, what are we doing here? We have our offers to meet
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Man, what are we doing here? We have our offers to meet
Lol, I lost hope a while back. I'm just trying hard for the sake of it now
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never lose hope, you'll do well. What grades do you need to get?
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True, I guess I'm getting worked up over nothing.
Original post by glebp
In a WBS group chat. One kid said he got a JPM internship. Was lurking around linkedin, saw a portfolio manager at blackrock after completing a managment degree from there. Semi-target is a no no, no matter what subject, priority => target, any degree
Is the guy you're talking about Victor Vas? That was the one that I found on LinkedIn, are you currently a student there? If so can you provide any kind of insight on careers data or on which firms visit Warwick's careers fairs as they don't post attendees from last year like Oxford, Kings and Southampton do.
Original post by glebp
Man, what are we doing here? We have our offers to meet
Original post by Princepieman
I'm sure you guys will do fine but good luck anyway!
Original post by Qin Shi Huang
True, I guess I'm getting worked up over nothing.
Is the guy you're talking about Victor Vas? That was the one that I found on LinkedIn, are you currently a student there? If so can you provide any kind of insight on careers data or on which firms visit Warwick's careers fairs as they don't post attendees from last year like Oxford, Kings and Southampton do.
I'm sure you guys will do fine but good luck anyway!
Is the guy you're talking about Victor Vas? That was the one that I found on LinkedIn, are you currently a student there? If so can you provide any kind of insight on careers data or on which firms visit Warwick's careers fairs as they don't post attendees from last year like Oxford, Kings and Southampton do.
I'm sure you guys will do fine but good luck anyway!
Nope, but I applied to WBS and insured a semi-target for industrial economics - tiny bit more traditional, although still not pure.
I am telling you straight away, I had this issue too. Warwick all the way! And can't remember the name I have encountered.
Hope you make the right decision! and thanks, I will need the luck!
Original post by Qin Shi Huang
Is the guy you're talking about Victor Vas? That was the one that I found on LinkedIn, are you currently a student there? If so can you provide any kind of insight on careers data or on which firms visit Warwick's careers fairs as they don't post attendees from last year like Oxford, Kings and Southampton do.
Is the guy you're talking about Victor Vas? That was the one that I found on LinkedIn, are you currently a student there? If so can you provide any kind of insight on careers data or on which firms visit Warwick's careers fairs as they don't post attendees from last year like Oxford, Kings and Southampton do.
Standard big names, it's a target uni after all. You don't have much to worry about re:careers fairs or employee visits (I believe Warwick actually held the most careers related events of all the target unis) but take a look at who sponsors/collabs with societies. I'm also certain all the top consulting firms visit/send representatives too.
I'm sure you guys will do fine but good luck anyway!
We'll have to see
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