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Does this explain the manosphere?

In the past I haven't really got involved in this "red pill" crap because the whole thing is toxic and I'm gay so I don't really care. But I had to laugh when a friend clued me on to two of the "manosphere" big wigs, which prompted me to research a little about the "movement". And suddenly it all made sense; why they are so desperately unhappy and bitter against women, why they act generally like complete losers.

Now keep in mind these two bozos below are constantly talking about being an "alpha" male, how they bang loads of women, how women shouldn't be allowed to own property or vote or get a university education. I give you Exhibit 1, Matt Forney



He's got a face like a scalded ballsack, all the physical charisma of a hemorrhoid and a child molestery look about him. Presumably he channeled all his rage at female rejection into a misogynistic feedback loop of low self-esteem and hatred that further reduces his prospects to have sexual relations with a woman.

Matt Forney is apparently a big cheese in the "manosphere" world. He regularly writes articles about how women are to be treated (badly, he tells us; they love it apparently) and how men can increase their prospects with the opposite sex by calling women retards and denying that sex requires consent. Tbh even using the ludicrous standards of the manosphere world, Forney looks weak, passive, effeminate and gross.

Exhibit 2 is Dean Esmay, another player in the manosphere world



Surely it's a mistake that a neckbeard who looks like he spends his days and nights in his Mum's basement masturbating to pictures of women dressed as a fantasy orc can be offering advice on the fairer sex to other men.

I'm genuinely curious what proportion of men are into this subculture. None of my straight guy friends are into this stuff so I don't really have anyone to ask IRL. But having dipped my toe in to this subculture and seeing the sort of weirdos these people look up to, it only confirms my previous impressions.

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Original post by Thutmose-III
In the past I haven't really got involved in this "red pill" crap because the whole thing is toxic and I'm gay so I don't really care. But I had to laugh when a friend clued me on to two of the "manosphere" big wigs, which prompted me to research a little about the "movement". And suddenly it all made sense; why they are so desperately unhappy and bitter against women, why they act generally like complete losers.

Now keep in mind these two bozos below are constantly talking about being an "alpha" male, how they bang loads of women, how women shouldn't be allowed to own property or vote or get a university education. I give you Exhibit 1, Matt Forney



He's got a face like a scalded ballsack, all the physical charisma of a hemorrhoid and a child molestery look about him. Presumably he channeled all his rage at female rejection into a misogynistic feedback loop of low self-esteem and hatred that further reduces his prospects to have sexual relations with a woman.

Matt Forney is apparently a big cheese in the "manosphere" world. He regularly writes articles about how women are to be treated (badly, he tells us; they love it apparently) and how men can increase their prospects with the opposite sex by calling women retards and denying that sex requires consent. Tbh even using the ludicrous standards of the manosphere world, Forney looks weak, passive, effeminate and gross.

Exhibit 2 is Dean Esmay, another player in the manosphere world



Surely it's a mistake that a neckbeard who looks like he spends his days and nights in his Mum's basement masturbating to pictures of women dressed as a fantasy orc can be offering advice on the fairer sex to other men.

I'm genuinely curious what proportion of men are into this subculture. None of my straight guy friends are into this stuff so I don't really have anyone to ask IRL. But having dipped my toe in to this subculture and seeing the sort of weirdos these people look up to, it only confirms my previous impressions.


They look exactly like how I would expect a Red Pill-er to look :laugh:
Original post by Thutmose-III




He's got a face like a scalded ballsack, all the physical charisma of a hemorrhoid and a child molestery look about him. Presumably he channeled all his rage at female rejection into a misogynistic feedback loop of low self-esteem and hatred that further reduces his prospects to have sexual relations with a woman.



:coma::coma::coma:

Bunch of ignorant twonks.... I'm honestly at a loss as to how people can be like that

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oh noes TRP has been exposed :rofl:
Wow you really showed them, I bet they're losing sleep. Why do you care?
Original post by Vicky628
:coma::coma::coma:
Bunch of ignorant twonks.... I'm honestly at a loss as to how people can be like that


I know. I think what I found most discombobulating was that he wrote blogs with titles like "Fat girls don't deserve to be loved", which is bizarre given his own issues in that area. But I suppose this is part of holding women to a completely different standard.

Though tbh the most disturbing aspect of it is seeing that some of them propose things like the government providing female sexual partners to "incels" (red pill virgins). There's something so desperately pathetic about it.
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I thought this thread was about global warming

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When average/below average men felt they had to turn to "pickup masters" or whatever they style themselves as to get laid, then are taught that effectively abusing women is the method, this is pretty much just the obvious outcome.

Likewise these are probably people who grew up in a household where their dad ran everything and they grew up with the expectation they would get the same thing.

Really though, does it matter to guess?

EDIT: Ultimately it boils down to people not liking change, feeling threatened and wanting "the good old days back". This is by no means limited to red-pillers.
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op is a cuck
Original post by Magic Member
oh noes TRP has been exposed :rofl:


The red pill isn't an actual thing, so I can't expose anything in that respect.

But expose the fact that high profile members of the manosphere are quasi-obese, painfully ugly losers whose claims of having any degree of familiarity with, or understanding of, the opposite sex becomes immediately ludicrous upon seeing them? Yes, that can be exposed.

You only have to look at them to understand where their hatred of women comes; it comes from being universally rejected by women and lacking the strength of character to change themselves to be more attractive or to deal with that rejection with equanimity.
Anyone who uses the term cuck is an idiot and usually a virgin.
Original post by BirdIsWord
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:lol: Calm down, pet. No need to get emotional
Original post by Thutmose-III
Alright alright, don't get emotional babe. I'm just pointing out they're both ugly fat ****s and hypocrites to boot, and doing so in a somewhat comic and jokey manner.

Do you suffer from the "incel" problem or go to those sort of websites? (genuine question)


No I am not an 'incel' and no.
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sounds like someone took the blue pill
Original post by Thutmose-III
The red pill isn't an actual thing, so I can't expose anything in that respect.

But expose the fact that high profile members of the manosphere are quasi-obese, painfully ugly losers whose claims of having any degree of familiarity with, or understanding of, the opposite sex becomes immediately ludicrous upon seeing them? Yes, that can be exposed.

You only have to look at them to understand where their hatred of women comes; it comes from being universally rejected by women and lacking the strength of character to change themselves to be more attractive or to deal with that rejection with equanimity.


The one point of interest is that the redpill movement is part of a much wider reactionary social trend, the alt-right. They're created this alternative set of historical and social facts and believe there is a conspiracy to deny the truth. In the case of the redpill, they believe that men are the gender which is persecuted and that feminism has been created to fulfill the interests of the so called feminine imperative.


Claims of the divorce laws favouring women for example.
Original post by Thutmose-III
:lol: Calm down, pet. No need to get emotional


I said it wasnt aimed at anyone bro lol
reported for antisemitism
all this nasty stuff about unsuccessful males can lead to real life tragedies:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ElliotRodger
Original post by Magic Member
The one point of interest is that the redpill movement is part of a much wider reactionary social trend, the alt-right. They're created this alternative set of historical and social facts and believe there is a conspiracy to deny the truth. In the case of the redpill, they believe that men are the gender which is persecuted and that feminism has been created to fulfill the interests of the so called feminine imperative.


Claims of the divorce laws favouring women for example.


It is an interesting one, as you can find instances where men typically have less favourable results/conditions/rights than women do, but thus far I've yet to find a situation where the reason that situation exists isn't ultimately because of men's sexism in the first place.

Your example about divorce favouring a woman, if there is any actual discrimination here (which I don't think there is), then this is a direct consequence of women being expected to bring up the children and not work while the man is the breadwinner. Remove this stereotype and there is no longer a reason it should "favour" anyone.
Original post by Magic Member
The one point of interest is that the redpill movement is part of a much wider reactionary social trend, the alt-right. They're created this alternative set of historical and social facts and believe there is a conspiracy to deny the truth. In the case of the redpill, they believe that men are the gender which is persecuted and that feminism has been created to fulfill the interests of the so called feminine imperative.

Claims of the divorce laws favouring women for example.


Totally, I've only been finding out more recently about the alt-right world. It does seem to tie into a resurgence of white superiority, misogynist and conspiracist worldviews.

On the question of divorce laws, it probably can't be denied that if you go back 15 or 20 years, men who wanted custody often didn't get a fair hearing. But English courts have changed beyond recognition on that score; women do not get automatic or preferential custody of children any more.

One issue around marriage laws I did see these people referring to was that they felt adultery should be outlawed and men who "take our women" should be punished. They also demanded "pre-marital purity". Other "incels" demanded that the government should provide sexual partners for them. It's almost as though they're so achingly insecure that they believe (perhaps with some justification) that the only way they could get a woman to be with them is if the woman was forced. The difference is that they're wrong about the cause of women rejecting them; it's not the feminist-socialist-SJW industrial complex conspiracy, it's their own individual lack of personality/attractiveness etc

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