tsr new eu poll 2 days left

Poll

The EU...

govandpolitics

11

Which way are you going and why?

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Reply 1

Blue_Mason

10

I am a horrible person and TSR bullingdon club forever!

Reply 2

SMEGGGY

21

IN

We've been in for years, I know no different so think we're better together. Reducing immigration is not going to be achieved by leaving. 188.000 non EU came in, they'll still be coming in after we leave. We need to gain more powers off the EU as PM did. But yes, IN will win.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! :teeth:

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Reply 3

CheeseIsVeg

22

Remain - Imo I don't think that there are enough benefits to leaving to take the risk
But make sure you vote whatever it is, every vote will make a difference! :wink:

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Reply 4

govandpolitics

OP

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Original post by SMEGGGY

IN

We've been in for years, I know no different so think we're better together. Reducing immigration is not going to be achieved by leaving. 188.000 non EU came in, they'll still be coming in after we leave. We need to gain more powers off the EU as PM did. But yes, IN will win.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! :teeth:

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If we had the opportunity to join now would you though?

If no, You have too leave.

Reply 5

govandpolitics

OP

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Original post by SMEGGGY

IN

We've been in for years, I know no different so think we're better together. Reducing immigration is not going to be achieved by leaving. 188.000 non EU came in, they'll still be coming in after we leave. We need to gain more powers off the EU as PM did. But yes, IN will win.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! :teeth:

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If we had the opportunity to join now would you though?If no, You have too leave.

Reply 6

SMEGGGY

21

Original post by govandpolitics

If we had the opportunity to join now would you though?

If no, You have too leave.

In all honesty? Yes. We have more influence than we will once we're out. The days of the British Empire are gone so the world does not do as we say anymore.

500 million plus people, united, different languages & cultures. But I'll not want a USofE though. Keep it as it is with more control.

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Not telling :tongue:

EU membership certainly benefits the middle class, so I would expect this TSR poll to be very one sided. The working class? Not so much. They're the ones who lose out from our membership, but let's not say that too loudly, right?

Reply 9

SMEGGGY

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Original post by SunnysideSea

EU membership certainly benefits the middle class, so I would expect this TSR poll to be very one sided. The working class? Not so much. They're the ones who lose out from our membership, but let's not say that too loudly, right?

How?

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Probably out

Original post by SMEGGGY

How?

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Well, you can start with the increased competition for low-paid, low-skilled jobs. Not only making it harder for the working class to gain jobs, but reducing their wages once they get them (since big business always know there will be a ready supply of migrants to take their place. Also, more migrants means more competition for council housing, and cheaper housing in general - reducing supply and increasing cost of homes. Migrants, being on average poorer, tend to live in traditionally working class areas, meaning schools and hospitals in poorer areas are put under increased pressure, reducing the effectiveness of services.

Meanwhile, TSRians are sitting comfortably in Notting Hill, safe from these negative side effects, and reaping the financial rewards of increased profit.

Reply 12

the bear

20

i am not ready to withdraw

Reply 13

Fenice

9

Original post by SMEGGGY

IN

We've been in for years, I know no different so think we're better together.

Lamentable reasoning.

Reducing immigration is not going to be achieved by leaving. 188.000 non EU came in, they'll still be coming in after we leave. We need to gain more powers off the EU as PM did. But yes, IN will win.

The only way we will ever fundamentally change the EU is if the EU is destroyed and something more reasonable put in its place, and the only way that is going to happen is if nations begin leaving.

Original post by SMEGGGY

In all honesty? Yes. We have more influence than we will once we're out.

Please explain what you mean with some examples. At the moment I strongly suspect you are simply repeating what you've heard politicians and commentators saying.

Reply 14

Rorschach II

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Original post by SMEGGGY

In all honesty? Yes. We have more influence than we will once we're out. The days of the British Empire are gone so the world does not do as we say anymore.

500 million plus people, united, different languages & cultures. But I'll not want a USofE though. Keep it as it is with more control.

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No; that is false.

The UK would revoke the EU representatives in the WTO; the ones which are there in our place, then we'd delegate our own representatives working in our interests.

A Brexit wouldn't make our country slip into the North Atlantic Ocean; we'll always be a part of Europe.

Europe != the political union that is the EU