Where does the hatred of Eastern Europeans come from?

@KingBradly Did someone hack your account? One day you're ranting about remainers and the next you're delicately correlating nationalism to Brexit?

I'm saying I can't fathom they human being who needs work right and turns it down lol if they do that screw em! If I were in need of work and often times have been I WILL TAKE WHATEVER I can get that doesnt compromise my morals like drug dealing or prostituting someone/myself. And I'm sure I'm NOT alone. So the argument here is, for those people who do want to work but are still unemployed, many of them (granted not all) wanted (needed) to be a plumber, electrician, nanny, cook, cleaner but many times it's not Brtis doing this and so people have come to believe it's Brits "begging and choosing" when the truth is more often than not it's that there's a corrupt system taking in cheap foreign labour and treating em bad most likely underpaying as well, and ignoring Brits who wanted the job, not Brits in general. OR treating em just fine but why not an actual citizen? >_>

If you were desperate though you wouldn't think about work though. Think about it mate. Do you seriously believe a Brit in need of a job wouldn't take a job as a plumber, electrician, nanny, cleaner, cashier etc (the jobs "no one wants")?

But many of their countries the social mobility is harder so poverty is more...I guess...inevitable for some people and with no chance to escape on top of that. However that doesn't mean they can't live well there either. I get the concept of migrating. I don't get the concept of hiring over your own, as I also said to Boreism if you wanna read the comment I just left them. And I also don't get the concept of turning down work, even though I feel most people would take it. This is why I say it's imperative to start working young so you can build up the experience with all the "jobs no one wants." So it's not as degrading or whatever to do it when you're older. If they didn't go for the job proactively fine but still there's corruption :\

Well he has Jimmy Hendrix in his avatar and other than his music Hendrix was known for o

Firstly I wasn't saying that, secondly saying from personal work experience, some British workers don't want work; I once employed a few 18 year olds, studying at college (My parents own a restaurant takeaway). When we were quiet, most of them were on their phones most of the time, without using their initiative to look for things to do, and I 'had' to pay them, not that they deserved it.

If desperate, yes.
Poor pay, little security,no progression.

I think employers should just hire whoever can do the job best regardless of race and they should treat all employees with respect. I don't think its fair that they get paid less. I think everyone should be paid equally based on the quality of the work they do. I agree with most of what you say, just not that anyone has entitlement to a job. I think that whoever can do the work best and is willing to work the hardest deserves the job. Just out of interest what would have been your answer to @Blue_Mason 's question:-

"Would you pick fruit for seven days a week for £7.00 an hour?
Sat and Sunday you will work only half a day shift,so a day shift is six hours
Despite having to do a total commute of over two hours a day? "

Yep. And guess what? Who's easier to toss this kind of work to?? A knowing Brit albeit desperate or a vulnerable peasant worker from another country??




I hope it's not coming across as me preaching there's entitlement to a job? Entitlement to rights to get a job as a citizen and not getting the job because it's easier to hire people who aren't entitled to those rights I as a citizen have is my issue. You don't know who can do the best anything until you hire them. The issue is hard to compare when some jobs beeline foreigners to be hired all because of this false advertising that no one wants the work! Not yelling at you just those people who do that.

And yes I would do embarrassing work as I've said to other posters just now if I needed the work lol like picking fruit for low pay. However I as a citizen has worker rights that can make sure I get paid properly and work decent hours...the migrant cannot do that and those filthy employers know that.

Yeah, I thought from what you had said that you think that some people are entitled to get a job over others. I apologise if that was not what you meant. If there Eastern Europeans aren't they allowed to work here without a work permit anyway? Also do any employers just hire people on the spot without checking the quality of their work or their credentials? I have never seen any type of jobs that prefer a certain type of person, would that not be illegal anyway?

I completely agree with you, I would too if the situation called for it. I don't think its fair that migrants have to work in these conditions so I think that we need to make working conditions and pay better and more equal.

I think it's always been there. Personally all the Eastern European immigrants I've met have been hard-working, decent folk. You generally have to have something about you to travel across a continent to find work. I'm sure there are undesirable Eastern Europeans, but I suspect they largely stay in Eastern Europe.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to control immigration from Eastern Europe, obviously.

Well in the EU that was a major issue, that they didn't need this paperwork to come here, to work, etc. However that meant obviously if you don't have to deal with the "burden" (I've heard employers/owners/landlords call the interviewing process a burden) of checking paperwork and all these procedures, then being able to circumvent or get around these formalities that you have to do with the citizen (because if you don't it'll be on record) would be more advantageous for the employer/owner/landlord. Don't you think so? And so why not take in someone who gives no fuss? This is where the myth of "having amazing work ethic" comes in.

People say it to sound democratic but don't realise or are completely aware actually that it's a cover up for so much as we both agree corruption. So no I can't agree and the less informed people will have a go at me for being this and that when I honestly just can't perpetuate this ********. And yes equality is great but I still believe in prioritisation. Human rights is one thing, like foreigners I have always said do not deserve to be treated horribly, and called these names. Check my post history, I have argued with @Zargabaath @MrsSheldonCooper and @TheOpinion (I hope that's how his name goes) for "being a cuck" as in confronting xenophobic attitudes towards foreigners.

However while they deserve to be treated like human beings and don't deserve these stigmas of being "rapist scum," I still believe each country not just ours has to prioritise ITS PEOPLE 1ST. Well yea it was nice discussing this with you, niv, you're very rational.

lol what the f*** are you talking about? You are talking absolute sh*&*t.

Firstly britain is like 85% white, and secondly most of the hatred towards Eastern Europeans is from British whites angry at them for taking their jobs.

Yes I completely agree with you on most things except that last bit. I think that in any country whoever can do the job the best should be given it but you are of course entitled to your own opinion. It was nice discussing with you too, you are thankfully able to form a valid argument much better than certain others and you do it in such a pleasant manner too without resorting to meaningless arguing. You are very rational too. Goodnight.

I've heard there's been some hostility towards Eastern Europeans recently, especially after Brexit. Just seems odd as the Eastern Europeans I've met have been decent people, and their values are not entirely unlike our own. I've worked with Romanians, travelled to various Eastern European countries, and I live in an area where lots of Romainians and Poles live and I honestly cannot understand the hostility towards them other than the fact they take jobs. I can see why people would be frustrated about that but the Eastern Europeans themselves don't deserve it, they completely understandably are just taking an opportunity to make a better life for themselves. Just seems pretty uncalled for to bully them.

Again, British whites are self loathing. They pile it on the Eastern Euro's because they're white & therefore 'safer' to attack. You are deluded if you think that these Britons dislike Poles more than Pakistanis.

Does anyone know how benefits work? You can't get many benefits without working or work experience before.

There's JSA and you can only get that if you have in fact WORKED before and for a certain quota of time to be eligible

And there's all sorts of benefits like tax credits but that normally is down to rights as being self employed or having a certain number of kids proportioned with the work you do, and each person gets different amounts according to their personal situation.

Then there's disability rights, like ESA when some people can't work because disabled but used to work, and get support, so let's not have a go at the disabled now

There is literally no one getting for nothing. There is eligibility and even stricter now than before. The cliche of being lazy is moronic and archaic.

Because foreigners aren't entitled to all these benefits and shouldn't be they're not citizens, they instead are accommodated with immediate housing many times. Over British citizens. Fact.

As you know councils have a duty of care to families with children or vulnerable people. Single people with no dependents have no priority - over British citizens or anyone. Council housing departments allocate housing according to a points system.

The problem is the failure of successive Governments to build social housing, or houses to buy with either rents or mortgages that people can afford ie that are linked to earnings not what unscrupulous landlords can demand . ( See Labour's campaign at the mayoral elections.)

This housing problem has been worsened because of Mrs Thatcher's policy of selling off council housing at reduced prices and then forbidding councils to use the money to build more houses.

We need to think this through. Do we need immigrants to bolster our economy because our population is too old to support the things we need? Yes. We need young immigrants. Young immigrants work hard, young immigrants also have children and need housing. This is precisely why we need them - because they are young and because they will have children.

That being so, we should help them into housing like anyone else here.We want them to come, we want them to stay and work. Bringing up children for all our futures is a job, a vital job too. ( A reason why, incidentally, that our criticism and punitive treatment of young single parents is so ill placed on so many levels- they are doing vital work for society by bringing up children).