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Israeli girl stabbed to death by Palestinian inside bedroom

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Original post by The Epicurean
I think it is unfair to generalise all Palestinians, as there are some Palestinians who are trying to combat the violence. Aziz Abu Sarah is an interesting Palestinian peace activist who encourages Palestinians (and Muslims in general) to come to together with Jews and Israelis to try and encourage people to learn and understand about the other.

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he has a point,finally,someone falling for unity*
So brave of him
Sad knifing a poor female child to death
Original post by queen-bee
I think we should be able to talk about the crimes the Israeli government and Zionists commit without being called antismeitic.

Indeed, support of murdering of Jews and constant lie about the Jewish state has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.
Original post by admonit
Indeed, support of murdering of Jews and constant lie about the Jewish state has nothing to do with anti-Semitism.


I haven't mentioned any of things. Im Talking about civilian deaths,murder if men women and children. These must be talked about and the perpetrators brought to justice (the Israeli government). So now you're trying to say nobody can dare say anything negative about Israel? There's nothing antiSemitic about what I've just written. It's called being humanitarian and So many human rights groups and politicians across the world have slammed Israel for the past actions,grow up please
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Original post by queen-bee
Sad tbh. I think some people think all Jews are Palestinian oppressing zionists,so started turning into antisemitic bigots . There are many Jews who you'll see on the media opposing the killings.


I don't agree with bashing anybody's race or religion but I think we should be able to talk about the crimes the Israeli government and Zionists commit without being called antismeitic. I know this has certainly been my experience in the past but I think some people just don't understand the difference. *


I'm a Zionist Queeny what crimes have I committed?
Original post by queen-bee
I haven't mentioned any of things. Un Talking about civilian deaths,murder if men women and children. These must be talked about and the perpetrators brought to justice (the Israeli government). So now you're trying to say nobody can dare say anything negative about Israel? There's nothing Semitic about what I've just written. It's called being humanitarian and So many human rights groups and politicians across the world have slammed Israel for the past actions,grow up please


This is about the cold blooded murder of a child by a palestinian. can't you simply condemn this and those who celebrate this without trying to justify it?
Original post by Ordo
I don't honestly hate Jewish people there.


Shows how much you know about Israel. The Zionists/Yishuv settlers that essentially created the state of Israel were socialist communitarians and atheists.
Original post by PrincessZara
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Ooh interesting; you believe in "England for the English". Nazi.

You must be preposterously thick if you didn't know Jews lived in the Levant 1500 years before Muslims
Original post by Thutmose-III
Ooh interesting; you believe in "England for the English". Nazi.

You must be preposterously thick if you didn't know Jews lived in the Levant 1500 years before Muslims


Quite

her poster undermines her argument somewhat (but then we know Gandhi was a racist so funny to see people who claim to be anti-racist quoting him)
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Original post by physicsphysics91
Yet to see anything that suggest Palestinians are peaceful people that are open to try and resolve conflicts without using violence.


Yet to see anything to suggest that you can label an entire people based onth e actions of a few.
Palestinian militants harm innocent Israeli citizens
Israeli state harms innocent Palestinian citizens (just as dead if you have been starved or denied access to healthcare by the way)

Neither is blameless. But one is organsied and wealthy. The other disorganised, poor and desperate.

Did it strike anyone else as odd that the IDF would publish pictures of the crime scene in this manner? You would have thought (especially after that recetnish killing where some innocent palestinian boy was killed in revenge for the killing of some innocent israeli kids) they would be trying to dampen down secterian violence. Not inflame it.
Original post by Mathemagicien
Gandhi's quote is a bit politically incorrect

He's saying its wrong to impose one ethnic group on another, the same position that far-right groups in Europe have regarding Arab mass immigration to Europe. Do you really condone this message?


I would actually because it is historically and currently relevant.
Many European countries povided an awful lot fo help to point refugees to what is now Israel (Britain included) leading to conflict with the local populace.

A current comparison would be say the mass immigration of Syrian refugees. Now if they came to the UK and settled themselves ehre there and everywhere it would be fine. But they don't. Instead the state ships them off to certain areas. I think vast majority have ended up ina couple of Nothern cities with relatively few being absorbed into the South. THAT is the imposition.
Original post by Ordo
Israelis Jews killed more innocent Muslims than you think :wink:
does this, in someone's opinion, justify the murder of the Israeli girl ?
Original post by The Epicurean
I think it is unfair to generalise all Palestinians, as there are some Palestinians who are trying to combat the violence. Aziz Abu Sarah is an interesting Palestinian peace activist

How many? One? Two? It doesn't invalidate the generalization.
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The comments in this thread are telling of the antisemitism in the UK worsening, while not the only contributing factor, I can't help but think that the rising Muslim population and the widespread intolerant hateful views of the Jewish people are a substantial driving force behind it.

What people don't seem to realize is that once the Jews are dealt with, in the UK or Israel, that the non-Jews, Christians, homosexuals, atheists are all next for this treatment. Indeed, the Muslim demographics already make time for killing and raping these groups in between the Jew bashing which so many believe is mandated by their religious beliefs. And when/if this ever comes to pass, the persecution of every non-Muslim into obscurity, there still wont be peace, Muslims will do what they always do and turn on one another for not being the right type of Muslim.

I digress, Islam in all it's glory, and endless cycle of hate and persecution.
this poor girl was the same age as Anne Frank when she was murdered by the Germans.*
Original post by BaconandSauce
This is about the cold blooded murder of a child by a palestinian. can't you simply condemn this and those who celebrate this without trying to justify it?


ermmmm where the **** have I justified this?!
Original post by queen-bee
ermmmm where the **** have I justified this?!


You're prattling on about the crimes of Israel Queeny

What does this have to do with the murder of a child in her bedroom (unless that is you are going to use this as justification)
Original post by admonit
How many? One? Two? It doesn't make the generalization invalid.


How absurd is it to ask for a number. It is like me asking you how many Palestinians aren't peaceful, give me a number. There is no specific number that can be given here.

Generalisations against Jewish people and Palestinian people is what helps to keep this conflict going. Even when one makes a generalisation, they should do so whilst also acknowledging that the generalisation does not mean all people. The person I quoted said they were "yet to see... Palestinians.... try and resolve conflict without violence." I have named one, and only one is needed to show that there does exist Palestinians who do wish to resolve the conflict without violence, even if that individual is the one solitary voice. In fact, if there was only one single Palestinian who promoted a peaceful resolution, then I believe it would be vital that their message was heard. The one solitary voice that challenges the status quo is a voice that needs to be heard.
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Original post by The Epicurean
How absurd is it to ask for a number. It is like me asking you how many Palestinians aren't peaceful, give me a number. There is no specific number that can be given here.

There is.

the majority of respondents (56.2%) supported the continuation of the current knife attacks
http://www.jmcc.org/documentsandmaps.aspx?id=870

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