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Who is wining the war in Syria?

The Kurds look like the only winners in Syria as they have driven back ISIS and are slowly but surely gaining more territory in a few months Manbij will be liberated. Raqqa might be liberated from ISIS by next summer 2017 but could take longer with the Daesh moving south west from Raqqa and Tabqa.

Assad forces are suffering massive defeat after a failed attempt to liberate Tabqa from ISIS. The SAA has been forced back over 100 km from their front line on June 19th. ISIS are pushing them back towards Al Salamiyah and Hama in Syria's west which are in danger of falling to ISIS. The regime city of Deir Ezzor is also close to being taken by ISIS.

Moderate rebels are struggling both against ISIS and Assad forces.


The only final outcomes are that the Kurds win against ISIS in Northern Syria and declare an independent Kurdistan which would be fantastic news.

In other areas of Syria, Daesh is probably moving south westwards from Tabqa and occupying parts of western Syria aiming to take Hama and Homs. Leading to a 3 way battle between Regime forces, moderate rebels and ISIS. The situation is far more complicated by Russia's withdrawl from Syria, but improved by the fact that a free Kurdistan could block any Daesh supply routes from Turkey.
Original post by Ambitious1999

The only final outcomes are that the Kurds win against ISIS in Northern Syria and declare an independent Kurdistan which would be fantastic news.


Rojava have already declared their own statelet in March this year, it's called the "Federation of Northern Syria - Rojava". Officially, it's not an independent state, just their establishment of the confederal system that they envisage for the rest of Syria, and indeed for other states as well.

Moreover, despite it being predominantly populated by Kurds, Rojava has explicitly eschewed creating a Kurdish nation-state in favour of an expressly multiethnic society. For example, Rojava has two Co-Presidents, one Kurd and one Arab. They made a bifg point in the declaration of the Federation of noting that it had been approved by a 200-strong delegation which included elected delegates from Rojava's Kurdish, Arab, Assyrian, Armenian, Turkmen and Chechen communities, as well as other groups.

But yeah, it's pretty damn great and exciting there. :smile:
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Original post by offhegoes
Germany won on penalties. Typical.


Off he goes with the off topic comments.... :colonhash:
Original post by Ambitious1999
The Kurds look like the only winners in Syria as they have driven back ISIS and are slowly but surely gaining more territory in a few months Manbij will be liberated. Raqqa might be liberated from ISIS by next summer 2017 but could take longer with the Daesh moving south west from Raqqa and Tabqa.

Assad forces are suffering massive defeat after a failed attempt to liberate Tabqa from ISIS. The SAA has been forced back over 100 km from their front line on June 19th. ISIS are pushing them back towards Al Salamiyah and Hama in Syria's west which are in danger of falling to ISIS. The regime city of Deir Ezzor is also close to being taken by ISIS.

Moderate rebels are struggling both against ISIS and Assad forces.


The only final outcomes are that the Kurds win against ISIS in Northern Syria and declare an independent Kurdistan which would be fantastic news.

In other areas of Syria, Daesh is probably moving south westwards from Tabqa and occupying parts of western Syria aiming to take Hama and Homs. Leading to a 3 way battle between Regime forces, moderate rebels and ISIS. The situation is far more complicated by Russia's withdrawl from Syria, but improved by the fact that a free Kurdistan could block any Daesh supply routes from Turkey.

How are you finding this detailed information?
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Original post by Alex from almanis
How are you finding this detailed information?


Syrian live maps.

http://isis.liveuamap.com/en/2016/14-february-ruaf-airstrikes-on-is-in-manbij-in-ne-aleppo

This is a link to one map that showed the situation a few months ago but they're updated daily so you can get the latest map of today, showing the situation in Syria.

Different colours show the areas occupied by different sides. Yellow is Kurdish, black is ISIS and red is Assads forces which are rapidly losing the war against ISIS.
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Original post by Boss_Rhythm
Off he goes with the off topic comments.... :colonhash:


Can you centralise your signature as it is very annoying:tongue:
Original post by Alex from almanis
How are you finding this detailed information?


Not OP, but I get similar information by using the reddit sub /r/syriancivilwar. It's really good for following the war, and includes all sorts of maps, articles, social media posts (really significant for the war in Syria compared to previous wars), speculation, combat footage, propaganda videos, etc.

Original post by Ambitious1999
Syrian live maps.

http://isis.liveuamap.com/en/2016/14-february-ruaf-airstrikes-on-is-in-manbij-in-ne-aleppo

This is a link to one map that showed the situation a few months ago but they're updated daily so you can get the latest map of today, showing the situation in Syria.

Different colours show the areas occupied by different sides. Yellow is Kurdish, black is ISIS and red is Assads forces which are rapidly losing the war against ISIS.


The government is not rapidly losing the war against ISIS. ISIS drove back a government offensive on Tabqa, but they have not made any rapid or major gains. Most ISIS-government fronts have been stable for a while (i.e. little change in territory, not that there isn't fighting which of course there is) for a while. Even Deir Ezzor is holding up, despite some gains by ISIS.
Original post by M14B
Can you centralise your signature as it is very annoying:tongue:


Will do :biggrin:

I was rushing it...
Original post by RF_PineMarten
Not OP, but I get similar information by using the reddit sub /r/syriancivilwar. It's really good for following the war, and includes all sorts of maps, articles, social media posts (really significant for the war in Syria compared to previous wars), speculation, combat footage, propaganda videos, etc.



The government is not rapidly losing the war against ISIS. ISIS drove back a government offensive on Tabqa, but they have not made any rapid or major gains. Most ISIS-government fronts have been stable for a while (i.e. little change in territory, not that there isn't fighting which of course there is) for a while. Even Deir Ezzor is holding up, despite some gains by ISIS.


Hopefully you're right. Some have said it was a 'tactical retreat' and that Assads forces were not 'beaten back'.
If that's the case then hopefully Syrian army has taken all their weapons, tanks etc with them, because god knows what would happen if ISIS got its hands on Katysha rocket systems, Russian attack helicopters etc.
We can only hope the Kurds hurry up and seal the border with Turkey cutting ISIS off from the outside world :smile:

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