Muslim Dad doesn't allow daughter to become a doctor @Islam
This question goes to both Muslims & non-Muslims.
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
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The dad is obviously in the wrong here.
and my dad always wanted me to become a doctor 
no matter treating male or female patients - its a professional relationship with your patients
Muslim dad
no matter treating male or female patients - its a professional relationship with your patients Muslim dad
I swear Asian Muslims probably want their kiddies to become docs innit fam
Of course that's ridiculous. You could always apply to work in a women's ward e.g. a maternity ward or you can tell your dad to grow up. But on some wards they do have rules which mirror your dads opinion though: my mum works on an old people's ward and all the staff and patients on the ward are female (except doctors who come in to see the patients about certain things) but the nurses are all of the same gender as the people to make them feel more comfortable, it's the same on the male ward. So it depends on which type of doctoring you want to go into if you want to be e.g. a GP then you will almost certainly have patients of both genders and if your dad is not ok with this he needs to learn that his views on the world contradict the way it works. If everyone worked by those rules, as most doctors (especially in history) were men, only men would be able to get treatments for illnesses... is that fair? is that equality? ... basically to please your dad you could go with a job on a women only ward, which is harder to get and less well payed or you can tell your dad to get over himself and live your life how you want to.
Parents opinion on the choice of course for their offspring are completely and utterly irrelevant. They have no say as it is not their life. The daughter should become a doctor and treat whoever she needs to.
Parents are irrelevant in the life plans of their offspring*
Parents are irrelevant in the life plans of their offspring*
I don't think you should go with what your dad thinks, go with what YOU think- empower Islamic women!!! Ultimately your parents chose for you to grow up in a predominantly non-Muslim society so I guess they need to embrace that your opinions may not mirror theirs. Please don't just accept what your dad wants, it's your career and your life, not his!
Original post by Anonymous
This question goes to both Muslims & non-Muslims.
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
The dad has got it all wrong! I am Muslim. My sister is studying medicine. Like it or not the daughter is going to have to treat male patients to even stand a chance of passing her exams. Part of being a doctor is treating everyone fairly no matter what. Also what if there is a transgender person? Would she be able to treat them if they saw themself as a woman? The dad is wring for holding his child back from her dream. If that is what she wants to do she has the freedom to go to uni and study what she likes. Now there are not very many jobs where you can compltely ignore/avoid working wuth someone of the oposite sex! Unless he wants his daughter to suffer the dad should let her go. It is her choice and if that is what she wants then she should be able to pursue her dream. End of.
He's not going to go into work with her. She can lie & say she treats females only.
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Original post by Anonymous
This question goes to both Muslims & non-Muslims.
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
The dad has got it all wrong! I am Muslim. My sister is studying medicine. Like it or not the daughter is going to have to treat male patients to even stand a chance of passing her exams. Part of being a doctor is treating everyone fairly no matter what. Also what if there is a transgender person? Would she be able to treat them if they saw themself as a woman? The dad is wrong for holding his child back from her dream. If that is what she wants to do she has the freedom to go to uni and study what she likes. Now there are not very many jobs where you can compltely ignore/avoid working with someone of the oposite sex! Unless he wants his daughter to suffer the dad should let her go. It is her choice and if that is what she wants then she should be able to pursue her dream. End of.
Since when does treating the sick rely on whether their genitals are the same as yours?
Your dad is being protective and trying to follow what he thinks is his religion - it's good intentions I suppose, but Islam is also about help and charity. Using religion as an excuse to enforce ideas on sex and gender politics is polluting faith and really missing the point of Islam.
Get yourself to university - as it would be a tragedy for you not to become a doctor if you want to do so and have the opportunity to be one. I mean, if we are going to take the religion path here, God gave you the gifts to become a doctor and make a change in the world, it would be sacrilege not to use those gifts to do good.
You can maybe start off by agreeing passively with your dad - don't outright promise you'll only treat female patients, but remind him you do value his advice, as you obviously do, otherwise you would not be posting on here. Once you get to uni and are on the right track to becoming a doctor, go seek advice/guidance from someone on the staff on how best to deal with the problem. Even better if you find someone from a similar background as you. They'll help you build a convincing case for your dad until you're fully qualified.
Best of luck!
Your dad is being protective and trying to follow what he thinks is his religion - it's good intentions I suppose, but Islam is also about help and charity. Using religion as an excuse to enforce ideas on sex and gender politics is polluting faith and really missing the point of Islam.
Get yourself to university - as it would be a tragedy for you not to become a doctor if you want to do so and have the opportunity to be one. I mean, if we are going to take the religion path here, God gave you the gifts to become a doctor and make a change in the world, it would be sacrilege not to use those gifts to do good.
You can maybe start off by agreeing passively with your dad - don't outright promise you'll only treat female patients, but remind him you do value his advice, as you obviously do, otherwise you would not be posting on here. Once you get to uni and are on the right track to becoming a doctor, go seek advice/guidance from someone on the staff on how best to deal with the problem. Even better if you find someone from a similar background as you. They'll help you build a convincing case for your dad until you're fully qualified.
Best of luck!
Original post by Anonymous
This question goes to both Muslims & non-Muslims.
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Of course it's ridiculous. You shouldn't listen to him. Just agree with him and tell him you won't treat male patients just to make him happy. I mean, if you explain it to him then he probably won't understand. So why bother hassling yourself? Just lie. He's not ever going to understand your point of view. I have muslims parents who do not approve of me having a girlfriend. I love her to bits and she makes me happy. Even if I wanted to leave her, I wouldn't be able to. I just can't. My parents will never understand this and won't even listen to my point of view. So I just lie to them and tell them I'm going out with the lads. Simple.
I know you shouldn't have to lie, but honestly, if someone's just plain ignorant and putting restrictions over you, you can't just conform to them. You're an adult and you have to make your own decisions.
You will not be able to pass medical school, let alone practice as a doctor, without seeing male patients. Even if you were to specialise in obs & gynae, you would still have to get through med school (including learning how to examine men including their genitals) and two years of foundation training working in lots of different specialties, before moving to just female patients. And the female patients will still have male partners with them a lot of the time. So the Dad is being totally unrealistic in his expectations/demands.
The daughter is an adult and therefore the Dad isn't "allowed" to stop her doing anything legally. He can of course make her life difficult by refusing financial support etc, but that depends how much of an ******** he is.
The daughter is an adult and therefore the Dad isn't "allowed" to stop her doing anything legally. He can of course make her life difficult by refusing financial support etc, but that depends how much of an ******** he is.
why did you add ''Muslim'' to the title when you know it's your dad whose a paki (most likely) thats the problem?
Wait for him to have a heart attack and see if he asks you for medical help.
Just tell your dad you agree and you won't treat male patients.
He won't be following you around in university and in the hospital.
Also, tell him about how women use to treat male patients in the prophet's time during wars and battles.
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He won't be following you around in university and in the hospital.
Also, tell him about how women use to treat male patients in the prophet's time during wars and battles.
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Original post by SMEGGGY
He's not going to go into work with her. She can lie & say she treats females only.
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If she's a practising muslim then she's not going to lie to her dad is she?
Say if he was extremely ill and only a female doctor was around to help/save him, would he turn her away?
If you want to be a doctor you should be willing to help/treat anybody in need regardless of their gender. If you'd rather follow your religion and dad's wishes that's down to you, but to me that just sounds absolutely ridiculous, you won't be tarnished for treating a sick man.
If you want to be a doctor you should be willing to help/treat anybody in need regardless of their gender. If you'd rather follow your religion and dad's wishes that's down to you, but to me that just sounds absolutely ridiculous, you won't be tarnished for treating a sick man.
Original post by Anonymous
This question goes to both Muslims & non-Muslims.
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Q) Do you think this is right if a daughter wants to study medicine at
university in September and has AAA in her A level offers as well as holding
offers but the dad says "your allowed to study to become a Doctor" but you're not allowed to treat "male" patients. <--- Opinions? Is that Sexist?
Surely, if the person is willing to go into a large debt via student finance from
tuition fees + living costs + countless hours studying for medical exams + brutal shift hours working as a Junior doctor with s... pay and is willing to invest time for 5-6 years that the Dad is allowed to stop her?
I know there are examples where my dad's argument doesn't seem to hold.
For example, a war breaks out or a man in a random scene is injured/wounded & is in critical condition where he doesn't get help then he will die (bleeding) and there is no male doctor or anyone qualified to help, then surely it would make sense to treat him as in Islam if you don't help someone (in this case by not helping him your letting him die so its on your consciousness) then its as if you killed the entire mankind.
Opinions?
Why would a father allow his daughter to become a DOCTOR and then refuse her to touch male patients. The whole point of a DOCTOR is TREAT ANYONE no matter what gender they are. I want to become a doctor and I have the wishes of my parents to do so.BTW IM A MUSLIM GIRL TOO. They dont care if I TREAT a male even if if i have to treat his dick if i have to
As long as I am realiving him from his pain, and fulfilling MY ROLE AS A DOCTOR which I SIGNED UP FOR.Quick Reply
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