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does not agreeing with homosexuality make me homophobic

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He made your point look so weak and stupid, by using counter examples to the one you used. His argument was just so much more better and stronger than yours. Theres nothing you could say to bring you back.

Untrue, it is an assumption as homophobia does not mean only outright hate which means it wasn't a counter argument as it is a valid point... and your simply attempting to justify his post to strengthen your own.
'It doesn't affect you' is a weak argument, there are better ones.

Reply 41

theBranicAc

Original post by Terry Tibbs

If you consider the definition so stupid then you shouldn't have any problem being called homophobic then should you.

what do you mean i shouldt have a problem being called homophobic? My point is such a term like this should't be defined by simplying giving an opposite opinion? I should be defined as something which is hateful and not 'negative attitude' as having a negative attitude could just mean having an opposite opinion.

Original post by Plagioclase

It comes from the Greek, that's what homophobia means. You wouldn't find it very controversial that an arachnophobe doesn't like spiders so I don't see why you think it's unacceptable that homophobia means a dislike of homosexuality.

arachnophobe is the 'extreme or irrational fear of spiders' not just not liking spiders.
All im saying is that in my opinion, the definition of homophobic, is like a way for protecting gay people from serious hate, therefore something as light as disagree with it will help enforce hate agaisnt homos?

You understand what I mean now?

Reply 42

username1450924

I would say being homophobic is going around not talking to gays, insulting them, beating them up, just being a general tw*t to them. Not agreeing with something is fine, and voicing that opinion is also fine. However hating gay people and stuff like that, that is homophobia.

Reply 43

Terry Tibbs

Original post by theBranicAc

Mate, it's defined in exactly the same was as any phobia, an irrational fear. If you don't consider it a valid definition then you shouldn't have any problem being called what you consider to be a meaningless word.

Reply 44

Zarek

[QUOTE=theBranicAc;66293908]I don't see how it is homophic? he simply said he doesn't agree them, not that he hates them or anythin? i guess people don't like hearing other people's opinionIts as ridiculous as someone saying they don't agree with heterosexuality (which you don't hear very often) and then add the terrible history associated with this 'opinion'. No one is forcing anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to so just get on with your life and don't bother posting views that are, or might be construed as, homophobic. Simple.

Reply 45

theBranicAc

Original post by Terry Tibbs

"I don't believe in disabled people being kept alive because the weakest of the population are supposed to die out due to Darwinism", is this a rational reason for letting disabled people die?

your point has nothing to do with populating the world, becuase disabled people can still reproduce, as long as their hetrosexual right?

Original post by 1 8 13 20 42

This is a rational reason to want the rate of homosexuality to be low, but not to be against individual occurrences of homosexuality.

yes i understand that, but won't the number of individual occurrences of homosexuality reduce the rate of homosexuality so you can reproduce more?

Original post by XOR_

lol wtf why you trying to have ago at my points, i know there are better agruments, i'm just saying his is better than yours, im not trying to justify anything

mate calm down no need to be butt - hurt

Reply 46

Terry Tibbs

Original post by theBranicAc

your point has nothing to do with populating the world, becuase disabled people can still reproduce, as long as their hetrosexual right?

The fu-? I think you've lost it mate.

Reply 47

math42

Original post by theBranicAc

yes i understand that, but won't the number of individual occurrences of homosexuality reduce the rate of homosexuality so you can reproduce more?

Clearly more reproduction is exactly what this species needs...

Reply 48

theBranicAc

tbh i honestly can be bother now.

my hands are tired

Reply 49

Terry Tibbs

Original post by theBranicAc

tbh i honestly can be bother now.

my hands are tired

Tired after secretly masturbating to your gay porn yeah?

Reply 50

Plagioclase

Original post by theBranicAc

All im saying is that in my opinion, the definition of homophobic, is like a way for protecting gay people from serious hate, therefore something as light as disagree with it will help enforce hate agaisnt homos?

You understand what I mean now?

No I don't understand what you mean. You disagreeing with the definition of a word doesn't change the definition of a word. Homophobia means what it means, regardless of what you think about it unfortunately.

Reply 51

PossiblyNotGod

Original post by theBranicAc

No your missing the point completely...
If you say "'it doesn't affect you' why are you being homophobic?",
then he can say "well 'it doesn't affect you why do you care?"
It's a crappy argument because it can be used equally by both sides.

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Reply 52

theBranicAc

Original post by Terry Tibbs

"I don't believe in disabled people being kept alive because the weakest of the population are supposed to die out due to Darwinism", is this a rational reason for letting disabled people die?

Reply 53

Meridian-S

I don't understand understand how you 'can't agree with homosexuality', it's the same principal of someone saying they 'can't agree with disabled people'. They're born with it, what makes you so above what people do behind closed doors? The earth is already way too overpopulated as it is.

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Reply 54

theBranicAc

Original post by XOR_

No your missing the point completely...
If you say "'it doesn't affect you' why are you being homophobic?",
then he can say "we'll 'it doesn't affect you why do you care?"
It's a crappy argument because it can be used equally by both sides.

fair point, but when it is said the second time(to counter argure to the person who said it the first time) it just makes it look better

Reply 55

Terry Tibbs

Original post by theBranicAc

Glad to see that you've realised why you're wrong.

Reply 56

PossiblyNotGod

Original post by theBranicAc

fair point, but when it is said the second time(to counter argure to the person who said it the first time) it just makes it look better

If that's your view then it's even worse, you basically just said the counterargument

"I'm homophobic why do you care?" looks better.

Reply 57

username2585877

Original post by ByEeek

So if everyone is equal and can do as they please, what have you against homosexuality? It doesn't affect you. You are not involved. It is no concern of yours. So why the anguish? Homosexuality isn't a choice. It is just how some people are. You can believe it to be wrong, but it doesn't work like that. It isn't a lifestyle choice just as you don't choose to be heterosexual.

To think about how it feels, flip the argument around and imagine that heterosexuality was the taboo combination and that homosexuality were the norm. How would you feel if people voiced the sort of opinion you just have.

Live and let live. No one did any harm by being gay.

Original post by Zarek

Yes, because it's absolutely none of your business to express a negative view about something which does not affect you nor indeed anyone else. Add to this the history of appalling abuse and persecution gay people have face over ages and you might appreciate why posts of this type are a remnant of former legitimised intolerant times.

although it doesn’t affect him, it’s his opinion. now, i’m bi myself and I have never been treated differently. he has a right to an opinion as long as he doesn’t enforce it