Anti-refugee people: Would you rather have a Syrian die than come to the UK?

A lot of people here are hating on refugees and saying that Britain shouldn't accept any. So would you rather have an innocent Syrian die in an air strike or a bomb than come here and live a safe life here?

Is this what Jesus would say?

But the average migrant? I still fail to see the case for justified death

I think reasons as to why there's so much anti refugee feelings going around is because a lot of them have walked into Europe unchecked- meaning ISIS would have a field day because they can easily send Jihadis posing as refugees, some act incredibly entitled for "refugees" (sex attacks, burning down the refugee buildings, forcing Christians from Syria to convert to Islam and how you have people from Pakistan posing as refugees just for benefits.

There was some documentary called "Children of the Front Line" and the camera crew followed a mother and her two daughters to Germany. The girl was so happy because she said there were no bombs in Germany and she could dance on the street etc. I would gladly help families like that. But single men, who have left their families behind and have decided not to fight for their country? Nope never.



I knew you'd say that hahaha

I agree with all your points but why should men fight and die in pointless wars ?

To Themini, surely supporting the mess is what's been keeping it gone for so long?

And there was an article where Dailymail journalists interviewed Yazidi girls who had been sold off by ISIS as sex slaves. It was really horrible to read and I think they interviewed quite a few girls about it. A shocking number of them said that Saudi Arabian sheiks had brought them and had paid ISIS extra if a girl was a virgin.

If support from Saudi Arabia was cut completely, ISIS would dry up so fast they could be wiped out so much more easily.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3404894/The-saddest-thing-remember-little-girl-12-years-old-raped-without-mercy-Dressed-traditional-wedding-gowns-Yazidi-sex-slaves-relive-torture-ISIS.html

So many Syrians condemn ISIS for ruining their country. Why not just fight with the Kurds? I know its more complicated but I don't think its impossible considering a lot of them are young and fit.

If we used this question to justify allowing anyone at risk of death, displacement and discrimination across the world in Britain we'd be a) billions of people over capacity and b) not British anymore.

Get a grip, OP.

Having a whole country flooded with unskilled refugees would ruin it. The problem is that it's not just one, or ten, or even a hundred. It's an indeterminate horde that won't stop coming and may never leave.

The whole concept of asylum and the treaties governing it were written in a different time. The concept is now being abused to flood European countries with countless people from a culture that's very hostile to their way of life. Only now they can't revise it without angering important sections of the population.

I think Europe has unfortunately bound itself to some very self-destructive ideas and traditions, and that there's no way they will save themselves because being compassionate is more important than anything else now.

I should clarify that I have no issue with controlled immigration of wealthy or educated people from countries like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. But unchecked migration of refugees from the very heart of anti-Western terrorism, based on total trust and compassion? Absurd.

Answer the question. If you had the power to choose whether a Syrian comes to this country or dies in their homeland you'd have to be wrong in the head to choose the latter.

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Would you rather a small child die in the UK as the NHS cannot afford the treatment required to try and save him / her or to bring in a random migrant?

Taking this entirely hypothetically, there'd be no reason to take one over the option if each ends in a child dying.

But placing this in the real world, can you actually establish reasonable grounds for the possibility of a causal link between a migrant coming here and a native child dying from lack of required treatment?

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Yes, as money does not grow on trees, every £ being spent on a migrant is a £ taken away somewhere, could be from the NHS, could be from mental health services (perhaps someone will commit suicide), could come a variety of areas. There is no good reason at all for any migrant to come here, which is why I have my personal policy of the UK should take zero migrants.

In op's question the hypothetical Syrian is guaranteed to die if they do not come here. I find it very very unlikely them coming here would lead to the death of a child on the NHS.
And if they were also guaranteed to die in this hypothetical situation, given money was taken from the NHS, then obviously the best option would be for money required to be taken from a sector in which lives are not at risk.

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On side note, you do realise that the UK is in a lot of debt yes? A debt as a result of a government deficit, which is adding to the debt every year. In general this country needs to stop spending a lot of money we already pay out, adding more people into the country who will not add into the system is just making things worse. The vast majority of all migrants entering the UK are costing the country money, it has to stop.